Who does TSF want to be the next AB coach?
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@mariner4life it's a nice building. Will have to see what they've done since I was in the last year for a Subbies meeting
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@NTA said in Who does TSF want to be the next AB coach?:
@mariner4life it's a nice building. Will have to see what they've done since I was in the last year for a Subbies meeting
yea, drove past it the other week. Looks very nice. Well done the executive.
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@ACT-Crusader said in Who does TSF want to be the next AB coach?:
@mariner4life said in Who does TSF want to be the next AB coach?:
@NTA said in Who does TSF want to be the next AB coach?:
@Machpants said in Who does TSF want to be the next AB coach?:
@NTA that's probably the £, € and ¥
The method doesn't bother me, just results. Chop chop!
ah, before you get too crowey there old mate, have you checked out the Aussie exodus after the World Cup? Will there be a 2nd rower left in the country?
Michael Hooper to cover lock given his salary covers about three players....
You're forgetting Folau, who is taller than Hooper.
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@antipodean said in Who does TSF want to be the next AB coach?:
@ACT-Crusader said in Who does TSF want to be the next AB coach?:
@mariner4life said in Who does TSF want to be the next AB coach?:
@NTA said in Who does TSF want to be the next AB coach?:
@Machpants said in Who does TSF want to be the next AB coach?:
@NTA that's probably the £, € and ¥
The method doesn't bother me, just results. Chop chop!
ah, before you get too crowey there old mate, have you checked out the Aussie exodus after the World Cup? Will there be a 2nd rower left in the country?
Michael Hooper to cover lock given his salary covers about three players....
You're forgetting Folau, who is taller than Hooper.
be good in their lineout. Don't reckon he could hit the half back off the top though
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The odds on Gats becoming AB coach have dramatically increased I think
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Personally, don't want Gatland coaching the Chiefs or the AB's, personally don't think the NZRU want him as Head Coach of AB's either.
I'd also rather he didn't clog up our limited coaching pathways for the next up & comer.
I wouldn't mind him coming in to the AB's setup as an AC. I like the idea of a Razor/Gatland ticket - Razor is clearly a great man-manager, man-coach, man-innovator, Gatland brings the ton of global experience to offset Razors lack of.
I could see a Foster/Gatland ticket.Concerned our attack-play has suffered since Wayne Smith left.
How quickly we've gone cold on Joe Schmidt, even if hes not "available"
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This has been posted elsewhere on the fern but for anyone who missed it here is an awesome down to earth interview with Gatland.
I have to say after watching that my opinion of him has changed a lot. Also listening to players who played under him seem to sing his praises. Look what he has done with Wales, I can only imagine what he could do with NZ. Gatland, Razer and O'Gara sounds good to me.
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@westcoastie said in Who does TSF want to be the next AB coach?:
Personally, don't want Gatland coaching the Chiefs or the AB's, personally don't think the NZRU want him as Head Coach of AB's either.
I'd also rather he didn't clog up our limited coaching pathways for the next up & comer.
I wouldn't mind him coming in to the AB's setup as an AC. I like the idea of a Razor/Gatland ticket - Razor is clearly a great man-manager, man-coach, man-innovator, Gatland brings the ton of global experience to offset Razors lack of.
I could see a Foster/Gatland ticket.Concerned our attack-play has suffered since Wayne Smith left.
How quickly we've gone cold on Joe Schmidt, even if hes not "available"
Have never warmed to either Gatland or Schmidt to take over.
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IMO I can’t see what else Scott Robsinson would have to do to get the job.
Each team he’s taken on has won, and played well. Can’t just say it’s the Crusaders system either, as Blackadder was rubbish. The new guys that they swap in for missing ABs don’t miss a beat.
So he would be my head coach (100 times over Foster). Gatland or anybody else would assistants at best.
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@Kirwan said in Who does TSF want to be the next AB coach?:
IMO I can’t see what else Scott Robsinson would have to do to get the job.
International experience. They like it - Henry and Hansen both coached overseas before taking on the role. Coaching internationals isn't coaching a club/provincial side - some key differences with how your personnel are handled, who's available, etc.
Deans was a very good coach, but probably better at club than international level. That said, maybe the post-Deans results suggest he was outstanding
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Previously international experience has been specifically mentioned as desired and/or required. But I seem to remember Tew mentioning this time it was not a requirement, which I feel is a nod to Razor being in the race, where as previous couple of times he wouldn't have been. Deans was the last one considered without international experience, he had an even better (well longer higher level of success) but lost out due to not having a team.
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No way in hell the NZ public accepts that style of rugby Gatland excels at.
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I'd take it at the Chiefs right now though.
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@mariner4life said in Who does TSF want to be the next AB coach?:
No way in hell the NZ public accepts that style of rugby Gatland excels at.
It'd be interesting to see if he stuck to that system so rigidly if he were in an environment more conducive to playing an expansive game. Same goes for Schmidt - other than a few nice set piece moves, most of Irelan'd rugby has been fairly turgid.
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@junior said in Who does TSF want to be the next AB coach?:
@mariner4life said in Who does TSF want to be the next AB coach?:
No way in hell the NZ public accepts that style of rugby Gatland excels at.
It'd be interesting to see if he stuck to that system so rigidly if he were in an environment more conducive to playing an expansive game. Same goes for Schmidt - other than a few nice set piece moves, most of Irelan'd rugby has been fairly turgid.
Agree on both counts.
Do you take a punt they can change given different cattle?
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Gatland's Lions teams played some outstanding Rugby, remember the Sean O'Brien try. As have his Wales teams on occasion when conditions allow. It was only really his Wasps team who were always dour and won ugly.
He would expect higher standards from New Zealand goalkickers and defences than in recent years. Like Steve Hansen ( and Ted & Razor) is a superb man manager who gets the best out of his players and can coach them to become better.
I think Gatland's leadership, organisation, experience, tactical skill, humanity and determination hand-in-hand with the right Attack coach could be an outstanding combination for the ABs. I'd love to see him mentor Razor who is growing year-on-year into a very special coach indeed.
