England tour to RSA
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@majorrage said in England tour to RSA:
Here's the article ...
https://www.nzherald.co.nz/rugby/news/article.cfm?c_id=80&objectid=12049368
Agree with you that Robshaw takes a lot of unwarranted stick. I suspect the writer of this article has don more research on Shields, than actually watching him play.
Better hands, I don't think so but it is sure that Shields runs faster than Robshaw. The latter is a carthorse.
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@catogrande said in England tour to RSA:
@majorrage said in England tour to RSA:
@nzzp said in England tour to RSA:
@dagrubster said in England tour to RSA:
@nzzp fair enough thanks. it is not something that i have thought about in rugby but have heard it in football as mentioned.
Difference with football/soccer is that internationals are not the apex of the game like they are in Rugby. The english football manager is just another coach - it's the supporters who are (and don't take this wrong way lurking englishers) deluding themselves as to the quality of their international side.
Rugby's a whole different ball o'wax.
You are wrong there. Nobody in England rates their football team. They don't even sell out stadiums anymore.
I'm sure they'll support them in the WC but there is zero expectation of them!
You're right of course, up to and until we go to a major championship, then the media fellate the team and manager and the whole country puts out the St George's flag, including those really annoying ones stuck on all the cars and then we get kicked out in the group stages again.
I thought you traditionally made the knockouts and lost on penalties. (Nice little joke in the movie 'Flushed Away' where England lose the final in a shootout.)
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@majorrage not wrong, as said, the expectation of the england public is virtually nil. when i first came here it was huge
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@dagrubster I must admit, idnot really know anyone who will actually watch an england football game anymore outside of a tournament. or plan to do so at least.
massive apathy towards it. so different to when i arrived.
of course, all it will take for it to change will be a win i a qtr final or semi and it will be huge!
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@dagrubster said in England tour to RSA:
@dagrubster I must admit, idnot really know anyone who will actually watch an england football game anymore outside of a tournament. or plan to do so at least.
massive apathy towards it. so different to when i arrived.
of course, all it will take for it to change will be a win i a qtr final or semi and it will be huge!
Isn't that at least partly because UEFA qualifying is now boring as fuck? Eastern Europe has balkanised into hundreds of crappy little countries, The Euros expanded so its almost impossible not to qualify. Still possible to not qualify for a World Cup though as a casualty of crappy little countries, Italy, Netherlands.
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@booboo said in England tour to RSA:
@catogrande said in England tour to RSA:
@majorrage said in England tour to RSA:
@nzzp said in England tour to RSA:
@dagrubster said in England tour to RSA:
@nzzp fair enough thanks. it is not something that i have thought about in rugby but have heard it in football as mentioned.
Difference with football/soccer is that internationals are not the apex of the game like they are in Rugby. The english football manager is just another coach - it's the supporters who are (and don't take this wrong way lurking englishers) deluding themselves as to the quality of their international side.
Rugby's a whole different ball o'wax.
You are wrong there. Nobody in England rates their football team. They don't even sell out stadiums anymore.
I'm sure they'll support them in the WC but there is zero expectation of them!
You're right of course, up to and until we go to a major championship, then the media fellate the team and manager and the whole country puts out the St George's flag, including those really annoying ones stuck on all the cars and then we get kicked out in the group stages again.
I thought you traditionally made the knockouts and lost on penalties. (Nice little joke in the movie 'Flushed Away' where England lose the final in a shootout.)
Our soccer team have many ways to let us down. Penalties is very much one of them.
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@catogrande said in England tour to RSA:
@booboo said in England tour to RSA:
@catogrande said in England tour to RSA:
@majorrage said in England tour to RSA:
@nzzp said in England tour to RSA:
@dagrubster said in England tour to RSA:
@nzzp fair enough thanks. it is not something that i have thought about in rugby but have heard it in football as mentioned.
Difference with football/soccer is that internationals are not the apex of the game like they are in Rugby. The english football manager is just another coach - it's the supporters who are (and don't take this wrong way lurking englishers) deluding themselves as to the quality of their international side.
Rugby's a whole different ball o'wax.
You are wrong there. Nobody in England rates their football team. They don't even sell out stadiums anymore.
I'm sure they'll support them in the WC but there is zero expectation of them!
You're right of course, up to and until we go to a major championship, then the media fellate the team and manager and the whole country puts out the St George's flag, including those really annoying ones stuck on all the cars and then we get kicked out in the group stages again.
I thought you traditionally made the knockouts and lost on penalties. (Nice little joke in the movie 'Flushed Away' where England lose the final in a shootout.)
Our soccer team have many ways to let us down. Penalties is very much one of them.
Pissed old idiots wanking on about the glory days of 1966 is another
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@mn5 said in England tour to RSA:
@catogrande said in England tour to RSA:
@booboo said in England tour to RSA:
@catogrande said in England tour to RSA:
@majorrage said in England tour to RSA:
@nzzp said in England tour to RSA:
@dagrubster said in England tour to RSA:
@nzzp fair enough thanks. it is not something that i have thought about in rugby but have heard it in football as mentioned.
Difference with football/soccer is that internationals are not the apex of the game like they are in Rugby. The english football manager is just another coach - it's the supporters who are (and don't take this wrong way lurking englishers) deluding themselves as to the quality of their international side.
Rugby's a whole different ball o'wax.
You are wrong there. Nobody in England rates their football team. They don't even sell out stadiums anymore.
I'm sure they'll support them in the WC but there is zero expectation of them!
You're right of course, up to and until we go to a major championship, then the media fellate the team and manager and the whole country puts out the St George's flag, including those really annoying ones stuck on all the cars and then we get kicked out in the group stages again.
I thought you traditionally made the knockouts and lost on penalties. (Nice little joke in the movie 'Flushed Away' where England lose the final in a shootout.)
Our soccer team have many ways to let us down. Penalties is very much one of them.
Pissed old idiots wanking on about the glory days of 1966 is another
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@mn5 said in England tour to RSA:
@catogrande said in England tour to RSA:
@booboo said in England tour to RSA:
@catogrande said in England tour to RSA:
@majorrage said in England tour to RSA:
@nzzp said in England tour to RSA:
@dagrubster said in England tour to RSA:
@nzzp fair enough thanks. it is not something that i have thought about in rugby but have heard it in football as mentioned.
Difference with football/soccer is that internationals are not the apex of the game like they are in Rugby. The english football manager is just another coach - it's the supporters who are (and don't take this wrong way lurking englishers) deluding themselves as to the quality of their international side.
Rugby's a whole different ball o'wax.
You are wrong there. Nobody in England rates their football team. They don't even sell out stadiums anymore.
I'm sure they'll support them in the WC but there is zero expectation of them!
You're right of course, up to and until we go to a major championship, then the media fellate the team and manager and the whole country puts out the St George's flag, including those really annoying ones stuck on all the cars and then we get kicked out in the group stages again.
I thought you traditionally made the knockouts and lost on penalties. (Nice little joke in the movie 'Flushed Away' where England lose the final in a shootout.)
Our soccer team have many ways to let us down. Penalties is very much one of them.
Pissed old idiots wanking on about the glory days of 1966 is another
Englishmen do not get pissed, we sometimes overindulge is all. As an aside are you still watching replays of Gemmil's goal from 1978?
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@bones said in England tour to RSA:
@mn5 said in England tour to RSA:
@catogrande said in England tour to RSA:
@booboo said in England tour to RSA:
@catogrande said in England tour to RSA:
@majorrage said in England tour to RSA:
@nzzp said in England tour to RSA:
@dagrubster said in England tour to RSA:
@nzzp fair enough thanks. it is not something that i have thought about in rugby but have heard it in football as mentioned.
Difference with football/soccer is that internationals are not the apex of the game like they are in Rugby. The english football manager is just another coach - it's the supporters who are (and don't take this wrong way lurking englishers) deluding themselves as to the quality of their international side.
Rugby's a whole different ball o'wax.
You are wrong there. Nobody in England rates their football team. They don't even sell out stadiums anymore.
I'm sure they'll support them in the WC but there is zero expectation of them!
You're right of course, up to and until we go to a major championship, then the media fellate the team and manager and the whole country puts out the St George's flag, including those really annoying ones stuck on all the cars and then we get kicked out in the group stages again.
I thought you traditionally made the knockouts and lost on penalties. (Nice little joke in the movie 'Flushed Away' where England lose the final in a shootout.)
Our soccer team have many ways to let us down. Penalties is very much one of them.
Pissed old idiots wanking on about the glory days of 1966 is another
1990 is my absolute limit. What a Grand Slam for the Scots.
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@mn5 said in England tour to RSA:
@bones said in England tour to RSA:
@mn5 said in England tour to RSA:
@catogrande said in England tour to RSA:
@booboo said in England tour to RSA:
@catogrande said in England tour to RSA:
@majorrage said in England tour to RSA:
@nzzp said in England tour to RSA:
@dagrubster said in England tour to RSA:
@nzzp fair enough thanks. it is not something that i have thought about in rugby but have heard it in football as mentioned.
Difference with football/soccer is that internationals are not the apex of the game like they are in Rugby. The english football manager is just another coach - it's the supporters who are (and don't take this wrong way lurking englishers) deluding themselves as to the quality of their international side.
Rugby's a whole different ball o'wax.
You are wrong there. Nobody in England rates their football team. They don't even sell out stadiums anymore.
I'm sure they'll support them in the WC but there is zero expectation of them!
You're right of course, up to and until we go to a major championship, then the media fellate the team and manager and the whole country puts out the St George's flag, including those really annoying ones stuck on all the cars and then we get kicked out in the group stages again.
I thought you traditionally made the knockouts and lost on penalties. (Nice little joke in the movie 'Flushed Away' where England lose the final in a shootout.)
Our soccer team have many ways to let us down. Penalties is very much one of them.
Pissed old idiots wanking on about the glory days of 1966 is another
1990 is my absolute limit. What a Grand Slam for the Scots.
Keep drinking the Iron Bru?!
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@pakman said in England tour to RSA:
@mn5 said in England tour to RSA:
@bones said in England tour to RSA:
@mn5 said in England tour to RSA:
@catogrande said in England tour to RSA:
@booboo said in England tour to RSA:
@catogrande said in England tour to RSA:
@majorrage said in England tour to RSA:
@nzzp said in England tour to RSA:
@dagrubster said in England tour to RSA:
@nzzp fair enough thanks. it is not something that i have thought about in rugby but have heard it in football as mentioned.
Difference with football/soccer is that internationals are not the apex of the game like they are in Rugby. The english football manager is just another coach - it's the supporters who are (and don't take this wrong way lurking englishers) deluding themselves as to the quality of their international side.
Rugby's a whole different ball o'wax.
You are wrong there. Nobody in England rates their football team. They don't even sell out stadiums anymore.
I'm sure they'll support them in the WC but there is zero expectation of them!
You're right of course, up to and until we go to a major championship, then the media fellate the team and manager and the whole country puts out the St George's flag, including those really annoying ones stuck on all the cars and then we get kicked out in the group stages again.
I thought you traditionally made the knockouts and lost on penalties. (Nice little joke in the movie 'Flushed Away' where England lose the final in a shootout.)
Our soccer team have many ways to let us down. Penalties is very much one of them.
Pissed old idiots wanking on about the glory days of 1966 is another
1990 is my absolute limit. What a Grand Slam for the Scots.
Keep drinking the Iron Bru?!
Otherwise known as Scottish Steroids
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Farrell named as captain. Pretty much as expected and also a divisive selection, pretty much as expected. Eddie does love the curve ball when selecting his skippers.
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@mn5 said in England tour to RSA:
@pakman said in England tour to RSA:
@mn5 said in England tour to RSA:
@bones said in England tour to RSA:
@mn5 said in England tour to RSA:
@catogrande said in England tour to RSA:
@booboo said in England tour to RSA:
@catogrande said in England tour to RSA:
@majorrage said in England tour to RSA:
@nzzp said in England tour to RSA:
@dagrubster said in England tour to RSA:
@nzzp fair enough thanks. it is not something that i have thought about in rugby but have heard it in football as mentioned.
Difference with football/soccer is that internationals are not the apex of the game like they are in Rugby. The english football manager is just another coach - it's the supporters who are (and don't take this wrong way lurking englishers) deluding themselves as to the quality of their international side.
Rugby's a whole different ball o'wax.
You are wrong there. Nobody in England rates their football team. They don't even sell out stadiums anymore.
I'm sure they'll support them in the WC but there is zero expectation of them!
You're right of course, up to and until we go to a major championship, then the media fellate the team and manager and the whole country puts out the St George's flag, including those really annoying ones stuck on all the cars and then we get kicked out in the group stages again.
I thought you traditionally made the knockouts and lost on penalties. (Nice little joke in the movie 'Flushed Away' where England lose the final in a shootout.)
Our soccer team have many ways to let us down. Penalties is very much one of them.
Pissed old idiots wanking on about the glory days of 1966 is another
1990 is my absolute limit. What a Grand Slam for the Scots.
Keep drinking the Iron Bru?!
Otherwise known as Scottish Steroids
....and the reason for the orange hair.
World's best hangover cure according to many a pissed kiltie. -
England squad for South Africa Tour:
Mike Brown (Harlequins)
Danny Cipriani (Wasps)
Luke Cowan-Dickie (Exeter Chiefs)
Tom Curry (Sale Sharks)
Elliot Daly (Wasps)
Ben Earl (Saracens) *
Nathan Earle (Saracens) *
Owen Farrell (Saracens)
George Ford (Leicester Tigers)
Piers Francis (Northampton Saints)
Ellis Genge (Leicester Tigers)
Jamie George (Saracens)
Jonny Hill (Exeter Chiefs) *
Nathan Hughes (Wasps)
Nick Isiekwe (Saracens)
Maro Itoje (Saracens)
Joe Launchbury (Wasps)
Alex Lozowski (Saracens)
Joe Marler (Harlequins)
Jonny May (Leicester Tigers)
Chris Robshaw (Harlequins)
Dan Robson (Wasps) *
Brad Shields (Hurricanes/ Wasps) *
Sam Simmonds (Exeter Chiefs)
Kyle Sinckler (Harlequins)
Henry Slade (Exeter Chiefs)
Denny Solomona (Sale Sharks)
Ben Spencer (Saracens) *
Billy Vunipola (Saracens)
Mako Vunipola (Saracens)
Harry Williams (Exeter Chiefs)
Mark Wilson (Newcastle)
Jason Woodward (Gloucester Rugby) *
Ben Youngs (Leicester Tigers)Uncapped *
Not available for selection:
Danny Care (Harlequins)
Jack Clifford (Harlequins)
Dan Cole (Leicester Tigers)
Tom Dunn (Bath Rugby)
Charlie Ewels (Bath Rugby)
Dylan Hartley (Northampton Saints)
James Haskell (Wasps)
Jonathan Joseph (Bath Rugby)
George Kruis (Saracens)
Courtney Lawes (Northampton Saints)
Alex Lewington (London Irish)
Harry Mallinder (Northampton Saints)
Joe Marchant (Harlequins)
Jack Nowell (Exeter Chiefs)
Beno Obano (Bath Rugby)
Cameron Redpath (Sale Sharks)
Semesa Rokoduguni (Bath Rugby)
Will Spencer (Worcester Warriors)
Ben Te’o (Worcester Warriors)
Manu Tuilagi (Leicester Tigers)
Sam Underhill (Bath Rugby)
Anthony Watson (Bath Rugby)
Richard Wigglesworth (Saracens)
Jack Willis (Wasps)England head coach Eddie Jones has finalised selection ahead of England’s tour to South Africa next month. The updated 34-man squad has convened at Pennyhill Park today to begin their final preparations before flying to South Africa on Saturday for the three Test series. There are three changes to the squad. Piers Francis (Northampton Saints), Nathan Hughes (Wasps) and Jason Woodward (Gloucester Rugby) are included following the withdrawal of Cameron Redpath (knee), Ben Te’o (small repair to quad muscle) and Jack Willis (knee).http://www.englandrugby.com/news/england-squad-for-south-africa-finalised/
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@stargazer That's a lot of experience not going.
