England tour to RSA
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@dagrubster said in England tour to RSA:
@nzzp fair enough thanks. it is not something that i have thought about in rugby but have heard it in football as mentioned.
Difference with football/soccer is that internationals are not the apex of the game like they are in Rugby. The english football manager is just another coach - it's the supporters who are (and don't take this wrong way lurking englishers) deluding themselves as to the quality of their international side.
Rugby's a whole different ball o'wax.
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stronger team than i thought was going to be selected. Eddie has had to play players he would prefer to rest on this tour.
I thought SA would win this tour before the english side was named but not so sure now although I imagine a lot of the english players will be running on empty.
with the boks looking like they will improve, at home and an english side fatigued i expect the boks to come away with a series win and heap more pressure on Eddie
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@nzzp he is now, never used to be the case but as you say, internatioanl football has lost importance and interest in England due to decades of expectation and ultimate faliure, which has been replaced somewhat by english clubs in europe.
still, would love to see england do well in a tournament again
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@dagrubster said in England tour to RSA:
with the boks looking like they will improve, at home and an english side fatigued i expect the boks to come away with a series win and heap more pressure on Eddie
If the big SA loose forwards get rolling, it could be good fun out there. The way the Sharks manhandled us all over the paddock is fresh in my head. Big, committed rugby players take some beating. Going to be a crackign series.
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@nzzp said in England tour to RSA:
@dagrubster said in England tour to RSA:
@nzzp fair enough thanks. it is not something that i have thought about in rugby but have heard it in football as mentioned.
Difference with football/soccer is that internationals are not the apex of the game like they are in Rugby. The english football manager is just another coach - it's the supporters who are (and don't take this wrong way lurking englishers) deluding themselves as to the quality of their international side.
Rugby's a whole different ball o'wax.
You are wrong there. Nobody in England rates their football team. They don't even sell out stadiums anymore.
I'm sure they'll support them in the WC but there is zero expectation of them!
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@majorrage said in England tour to RSA:
@nzzp said in England tour to RSA:
@dagrubster said in England tour to RSA:
@nzzp fair enough thanks. it is not something that i have thought about in rugby but have heard it in football as mentioned.
Difference with football/soccer is that internationals are not the apex of the game like they are in Rugby. The english football manager is just another coach - it's the supporters who are (and don't take this wrong way lurking englishers) deluding themselves as to the quality of their international side.
Rugby's a whole different ball o'wax.
You are wrong there. Nobody in England rates their football team. They don't even sell out stadiums anymore.
I'm sure they'll support them in the WC but there is zero expectation of them!
You're right of course, up to and until we go to a major championship, then the media fellate the team and manager and the whole country puts out the St George's flag, including those really annoying ones stuck on all the cars and then we get kicked out in the group stages again.
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After last night's MOTM performance for Cardiff Blues is Olly Robinson worth a go at 7?
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@majorrage said in England tour to RSA:
Here's the article ...
https://www.nzherald.co.nz/rugby/news/article.cfm?c_id=80&objectid=12049368
Agree with you that Robshaw takes a lot of unwarranted stick. I suspect the writer of this article has don more research on Shields, than actually watching him play.
Better hands, I don't think so but it is sure that Shields runs faster than Robshaw. The latter is a carthorse.
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@catogrande said in England tour to RSA:
@majorrage said in England tour to RSA:
@nzzp said in England tour to RSA:
@dagrubster said in England tour to RSA:
@nzzp fair enough thanks. it is not something that i have thought about in rugby but have heard it in football as mentioned.
Difference with football/soccer is that internationals are not the apex of the game like they are in Rugby. The english football manager is just another coach - it's the supporters who are (and don't take this wrong way lurking englishers) deluding themselves as to the quality of their international side.
Rugby's a whole different ball o'wax.
You are wrong there. Nobody in England rates their football team. They don't even sell out stadiums anymore.
I'm sure they'll support them in the WC but there is zero expectation of them!
You're right of course, up to and until we go to a major championship, then the media fellate the team and manager and the whole country puts out the St George's flag, including those really annoying ones stuck on all the cars and then we get kicked out in the group stages again.
I thought you traditionally made the knockouts and lost on penalties. (Nice little joke in the movie 'Flushed Away' where England lose the final in a shootout.)
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@majorrage not wrong, as said, the expectation of the england public is virtually nil. when i first came here it was huge
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@dagrubster I must admit, idnot really know anyone who will actually watch an england football game anymore outside of a tournament. or plan to do so at least.
massive apathy towards it. so different to when i arrived.
of course, all it will take for it to change will be a win i a qtr final or semi and it will be huge!
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@dagrubster said in England tour to RSA:
@dagrubster I must admit, idnot really know anyone who will actually watch an england football game anymore outside of a tournament. or plan to do so at least.
massive apathy towards it. so different to when i arrived.
of course, all it will take for it to change will be a win i a qtr final or semi and it will be huge!
Isn't that at least partly because UEFA qualifying is now boring as fuck? Eastern Europe has balkanised into hundreds of crappy little countries, The Euros expanded so its almost impossible not to qualify. Still possible to not qualify for a World Cup though as a casualty of crappy little countries, Italy, Netherlands.
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@booboo said in England tour to RSA:
@catogrande said in England tour to RSA:
@majorrage said in England tour to RSA:
@nzzp said in England tour to RSA:
@dagrubster said in England tour to RSA:
@nzzp fair enough thanks. it is not something that i have thought about in rugby but have heard it in football as mentioned.
Difference with football/soccer is that internationals are not the apex of the game like they are in Rugby. The english football manager is just another coach - it's the supporters who are (and don't take this wrong way lurking englishers) deluding themselves as to the quality of their international side.
Rugby's a whole different ball o'wax.
You are wrong there. Nobody in England rates their football team. They don't even sell out stadiums anymore.
I'm sure they'll support them in the WC but there is zero expectation of them!
You're right of course, up to and until we go to a major championship, then the media fellate the team and manager and the whole country puts out the St George's flag, including those really annoying ones stuck on all the cars and then we get kicked out in the group stages again.
I thought you traditionally made the knockouts and lost on penalties. (Nice little joke in the movie 'Flushed Away' where England lose the final in a shootout.)
Our soccer team have many ways to let us down. Penalties is very much one of them.
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@catogrande said in England tour to RSA:
@booboo said in England tour to RSA:
@catogrande said in England tour to RSA:
@majorrage said in England tour to RSA:
@nzzp said in England tour to RSA:
@dagrubster said in England tour to RSA:
@nzzp fair enough thanks. it is not something that i have thought about in rugby but have heard it in football as mentioned.
Difference with football/soccer is that internationals are not the apex of the game like they are in Rugby. The english football manager is just another coach - it's the supporters who are (and don't take this wrong way lurking englishers) deluding themselves as to the quality of their international side.
Rugby's a whole different ball o'wax.
You are wrong there. Nobody in England rates their football team. They don't even sell out stadiums anymore.
I'm sure they'll support them in the WC but there is zero expectation of them!
You're right of course, up to and until we go to a major championship, then the media fellate the team and manager and the whole country puts out the St George's flag, including those really annoying ones stuck on all the cars and then we get kicked out in the group stages again.
I thought you traditionally made the knockouts and lost on penalties. (Nice little joke in the movie 'Flushed Away' where England lose the final in a shootout.)
Our soccer team have many ways to let us down. Penalties is very much one of them.
Pissed old idiots wanking on about the glory days of 1966 is another
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@mn5 said in England tour to RSA:
@catogrande said in England tour to RSA:
@booboo said in England tour to RSA:
@catogrande said in England tour to RSA:
@majorrage said in England tour to RSA:
@nzzp said in England tour to RSA:
@dagrubster said in England tour to RSA:
@nzzp fair enough thanks. it is not something that i have thought about in rugby but have heard it in football as mentioned.
Difference with football/soccer is that internationals are not the apex of the game like they are in Rugby. The english football manager is just another coach - it's the supporters who are (and don't take this wrong way lurking englishers) deluding themselves as to the quality of their international side.
Rugby's a whole different ball o'wax.
You are wrong there. Nobody in England rates their football team. They don't even sell out stadiums anymore.
I'm sure they'll support them in the WC but there is zero expectation of them!
You're right of course, up to and until we go to a major championship, then the media fellate the team and manager and the whole country puts out the St George's flag, including those really annoying ones stuck on all the cars and then we get kicked out in the group stages again.
I thought you traditionally made the knockouts and lost on penalties. (Nice little joke in the movie 'Flushed Away' where England lose the final in a shootout.)
Our soccer team have many ways to let us down. Penalties is very much one of them.
Pissed old idiots wanking on about the glory days of 1966 is another
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@mn5 said in England tour to RSA:
@catogrande said in England tour to RSA:
@booboo said in England tour to RSA:
@catogrande said in England tour to RSA:
@majorrage said in England tour to RSA:
@nzzp said in England tour to RSA:
@dagrubster said in England tour to RSA:
@nzzp fair enough thanks. it is not something that i have thought about in rugby but have heard it in football as mentioned.
Difference with football/soccer is that internationals are not the apex of the game like they are in Rugby. The english football manager is just another coach - it's the supporters who are (and don't take this wrong way lurking englishers) deluding themselves as to the quality of their international side.
Rugby's a whole different ball o'wax.
You are wrong there. Nobody in England rates their football team. They don't even sell out stadiums anymore.
I'm sure they'll support them in the WC but there is zero expectation of them!
You're right of course, up to and until we go to a major championship, then the media fellate the team and manager and the whole country puts out the St George's flag, including those really annoying ones stuck on all the cars and then we get kicked out in the group stages again.
I thought you traditionally made the knockouts and lost on penalties. (Nice little joke in the movie 'Flushed Away' where England lose the final in a shootout.)
Our soccer team have many ways to let us down. Penalties is very much one of them.
Pissed old idiots wanking on about the glory days of 1966 is another
Englishmen do not get pissed, we sometimes overindulge is all. As an aside are you still watching replays of Gemmil's goal from 1978?
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@bones said in England tour to RSA:
@mn5 said in England tour to RSA:
@catogrande said in England tour to RSA:
@booboo said in England tour to RSA:
@catogrande said in England tour to RSA:
@majorrage said in England tour to RSA:
@nzzp said in England tour to RSA:
@dagrubster said in England tour to RSA:
@nzzp fair enough thanks. it is not something that i have thought about in rugby but have heard it in football as mentioned.
Difference with football/soccer is that internationals are not the apex of the game like they are in Rugby. The english football manager is just another coach - it's the supporters who are (and don't take this wrong way lurking englishers) deluding themselves as to the quality of their international side.
Rugby's a whole different ball o'wax.
You are wrong there. Nobody in England rates their football team. They don't even sell out stadiums anymore.
I'm sure they'll support them in the WC but there is zero expectation of them!
You're right of course, up to and until we go to a major championship, then the media fellate the team and manager and the whole country puts out the St George's flag, including those really annoying ones stuck on all the cars and then we get kicked out in the group stages again.
I thought you traditionally made the knockouts and lost on penalties. (Nice little joke in the movie 'Flushed Away' where England lose the final in a shootout.)
Our soccer team have many ways to let us down. Penalties is very much one of them.
Pissed old idiots wanking on about the glory days of 1966 is another
1990 is my absolute limit. What a Grand Slam for the Scots.
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@mn5 said in England tour to RSA:
@bones said in England tour to RSA:
@mn5 said in England tour to RSA:
@catogrande said in England tour to RSA:
@booboo said in England tour to RSA:
@catogrande said in England tour to RSA:
@majorrage said in England tour to RSA:
@nzzp said in England tour to RSA:
@dagrubster said in England tour to RSA:
@nzzp fair enough thanks. it is not something that i have thought about in rugby but have heard it in football as mentioned.
Difference with football/soccer is that internationals are not the apex of the game like they are in Rugby. The english football manager is just another coach - it's the supporters who are (and don't take this wrong way lurking englishers) deluding themselves as to the quality of their international side.
Rugby's a whole different ball o'wax.
You are wrong there. Nobody in England rates their football team. They don't even sell out stadiums anymore.
I'm sure they'll support them in the WC but there is zero expectation of them!
You're right of course, up to and until we go to a major championship, then the media fellate the team and manager and the whole country puts out the St George's flag, including those really annoying ones stuck on all the cars and then we get kicked out in the group stages again.
I thought you traditionally made the knockouts and lost on penalties. (Nice little joke in the movie 'Flushed Away' where England lose the final in a shootout.)
Our soccer team have many ways to let us down. Penalties is very much one of them.
Pissed old idiots wanking on about the glory days of 1966 is another
1990 is my absolute limit. What a Grand Slam for the Scots.
Keep drinking the Iron Bru?!
