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    Cruden didn't really 'dropped', he got injured, he got reselected by the ABs as soon as he got over his injury, then he promptly got injured again and BB got his chance and found his stunning form in the test series and passed him. Then Cruden decided the writing was on the wall and signed overseas.

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    @nepia said in All Blacks Squad for France:

    Cruden didn't really 'dropped', he got injured, he got reselected by the ABs as soon as he got over his injury, then he promptly got injured again and BB got his chance and found his stunning form in the test series and passed him. Then Cruden decided the writing was on the wall and signed overseas.

    Apparently it was because he missed a plane. Hansen and co were so incensed by this that they made him starting flyhalf in 2016.

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    @nepia said in All Blacks Squad for France:

    Cruden didn't really 'dropped', he got injured, he got reselected by the ABs as soon as he got over his injury, then he promptly got injured again and BB got his chance and found his stunning form in the test series and passed him. Then Cruden decided the writing was on the wall and signed overseas.

    That's a long winded way to say he was dropped from the starting line up.

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    @toddy said in All Blacks Squad for France:

    @nepia said in All Blacks Squad for France:

    Cruden didn't really 'dropped', he got injured, he got reselected by the ABs as soon as he got over his injury, then he promptly got injured again and BB got his chance and found his stunning form in the test series and passed him. Then Cruden decided the writing was on the wall and signed overseas.

    That's a long winded way to say he was dropped from the starting line up.

    Particularly from a selection panel that is at great pains to say you can’t go backwards when you are injured. He was clearly dropped.

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    It would have been interesting to see what would have happened if Cruden never blew out his ACL in 2015.

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    Jesus you guys are pedants - yes, he lost his starting position, he wasn't dropped from the ABs.

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    @nepia are you new here?

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    @kiwimurph said in All Blacks Squad for France:

    It would have been interesting to see what would have happened if Cruden never blew out his ACL in 2015.

    Or if Troy Flavell hadn't stomped on Greg Smith back in 03 and been labelled a thug and a liability...

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    Sooooo....When is the team named?

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    @pukunui

    Tune into the All Blacks social media channels at 9.30am on Sunday May 20 to see who is named in the 33-man squad to take on France in the Steinlager Series in June.
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    Got tickets for the Wellington game - stoked this is game two in the series... but also a smidge worried... because France!

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    The turning point was that second test of the series against Wales. Cruden played meh in the first half and then BB came in in the second half. His display was outstanding and the selectors have never looked back since.

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    Here is a forward pack consisting of unavailable players for the June series :

    Hames
    Coles
    Moli
    Bird
    Scrafton
    Seu
    Gibson
    Read

    This could compete with most packs (Australia, Scotland, Wales, Italy, Argentina, Fiji, Samoa, Tonga, Japan ...).

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    In the midfield the tricky position is the long term 13. All the contenders play 12 as well, and at twelve the problem is who to leave out.

    For me Crotty is inferior to ALB at 13. Goodhue is the incumbent Great White Hope, so I'd shoot for him and ALB.
    SBW is a lock at 12.

    So, for me, second 12 comes down to choice between Crotty, who always makes BB better at 10, and Laumape, who provides old fashioned grunt. I'd go for the former, but suspect it won't come down to that.

    At 10, if the go for three, there are two slots potentially available. Can't see Mo'unga not being there.

    DMac is not an international 10 and I don't think he ever will be. Very content to see him as a back up 15 -- but would have to get past Jordie. If there is a third 10, it needs to be a specialist.

    We need a big hitting 6/8 to even up the loosie balance. If Squire not fully fit we are exposed. None of Fifita/Ioane/Taufua/Whitelock strike me as defensive enforcers.

    Have mainly watched Blues and Chiefs this year -- is there any emerging big hitter? Frizell is big and was highly impressive against Blues (know that's not saying that much!), but haven't seen enough of him to know how dominant his D is.

    When is team named?

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    @pakman if whitelock doesn't strike you as a defensive enforcer, it would appear you're not watching him play.

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    @pakman said in All Blacks Squad for France:

    When is team named?

    @kiwimurph said in All Blacks Squad for France:

    @pukunui

    Tune into the All Blacks social media channels at 9.30am on Sunday May 20 to see who is named in the 33-man squad to take on France in the Steinlager Series in June.
    

    Basically, the team will be named about 1 second before Crucial posts it on TSF πŸ™‚

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    @bones said in All Blacks Squad for France:

    @pakman if whitelock doesn't strike you as a defensive enforcer, it would appear you're not watching him play.

    Haven't seen a lot of him. to be honest. He is certainly a very accurate tackler, but I don't recall seeing him make dominant tackles in the style of JK or Squire.

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    Maybe the choice of the Nr.12 jersey could be linked to the best mean to neutralize Matthieu Bastareaud and his 130 kgs. The French forwards will probably win at least 50% of the possession so I guess Bastareaud will charge relentlessly in midfield. SBW could be the best answer against him.

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    @cgrant I concur - mostly. It seems both Crotty and SBW spend a fair amount of time out injured these days and will need to be managed carefully prior to the TRC and through the SR finals. I think we will see Goodhue and Laumape spend time in the centres, Laumape is developing into a Nonu-esque type of player, and Goodhue I can see will eventually succeed Crotty. t's a pity Aso is out injured and Procter seemingly not in the mix, as I think that would have added extra extra spice to the competiton for places.

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    @wairau said in All Blacks Squad for France:

    @pakman said in All Blacks Squad for France:

    When is team named?

    @kiwimurph said in All Blacks Squad for France:

    @pukunui

    Tune into the All Blacks social media channels at 9.30am on Sunday May 20 to see who is named in the 33-man squad to take on France in the Steinlager Series in June.
    

    Basically, the team will be named about 1 second before Crucial posts it on TSF πŸ™‚

    I have to wait for the embargo to finish. πŸ˜‰

    I won't be sitting at the computer 10.30 on a Saturday night for this one

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