All Black backs' passing
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@pakman said in All Black backs' passing:
@rancid-schnitzel said in All Black backs' passing:
@pakman said in All Black backs' passing:
@bones I'd take BB over Foley every day of the year. The key point is that IMHO Foley has a better cut out pass. I think BB has gotten a little carried away with the kick pass. Just a work on.
Disagree with the better cut out pass. Remember that one Barnes didn't call forward? That was a shocker. Although ironically it led to a try....
Regardless, I totally agree that BB needs to improve big time on his place kicking and also needs work on his option-taking. But his pass isn't a problem. In fact out of all the starting 10s in test rugby, I'd say he has the best pass of the lot.
That Foley pass was a shocker: but as the old joke goes, one swallow doesn't make a summer! BB has a lot of clever passes, but we may have to agree to disagree about his long balls.
Goal kicking is a worry, and option taking not great when he doesn't have a pair of savvy eyes, such as Crotty's outside him.Do you watch the Canes much? Plenty of delicious long balls on display there.
Fark that looks dodgy if taken out of context.
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@rancid-schnitzel You ain't wrong! Not really, for my sins I am a long suffering Blues fan living in Wimbledon. Long time between drinks!!
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@act-crusader said in All Black backs' passing:
@cgrant said in All Black backs' passing:
I'd like to see a Crotty - Goodhue midfield combo at the EOYT or against the Wallabies in Brisbane. Goodhue is the most Conradsmithuesque centre in NZ IMO.
Like your thinking
- Crockett
- Taylor
- Laulala
- Romano
- Whitelock
- Barrett
- Todd
- Read
- T. Lander
- T. Cane
- T. Blue
- Crotty
- Goodhue
- Dagg
- Havili
Don't you need to hand in your Cantab man card for that selection ACT? There's not 15 Crusaders. Hell, even the non Cantab Mitchell the Journey managed to get 14 Crusaders into an AB team.
Edit: Guess I should have checked the first page before posting my reply, seems everyone's rallied around to help you pick 15.
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@pakman said in All Black backs' passing:
@rancid-schnitzel You ain't wrong! Not really, for my sins I am a long suffering Blues fan living in Wimbledon. Long time between drinks!!
Could be worse. I was once a Canes fans living in Oslo! "Rugby, is that like American football."
"No, nothing like it you stupid Noggie."
Those were the days..
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@pakman said in All Black backs' passing:
@bones I'd take BB over Foley every day of the year. The key point is that IMHO Foley has a better cut out pass. I think BB has gotten a little carried away with the kick pass. Just a work on.
Isn't the cut out pass an overlap killer anyway? Of all the skills not up to scratch, I'd prefer it be the cut out passes.
But I agree the passing on the weekend was beyond shoddy.
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@act-crusader said in All Black backs' passing:
@cgrant said in All Black backs' passing:
I'd like to see a Crotty - Goodhue midfield combo at the EOYT or against the Wallabies in Brisbane. Goodhue is the most Conradsmithuesque centre in NZ IMO.
Like your thinking
- Crockett
- Taylor
- Laulala
- Romano
- Whitelock
- Barrett
- Todd
- Read
- T. Lander
- T. Cane
- T. Blue
- Crotty
- Goodhue
- Dagg
- Havili
I'd put Oli Jager in at tighthead
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@rapido said in All Black backs' passing:
@pakman said in All Black backs' passing:
@bones I'd take BB over Foley every day of the year. The key point is that IMHO Foley has a better cut out pass. I think BB has gotten a little carried away with the kick pass. Just a work on.
Isn't the cut out pass an overlap killer anyway? Of all the skills not up to scratch, I'd prefer it be the cut out passes.
But I agree the passing on the weekend was beyond shoddy.
absolutely not. it allows you to choose the point of attack. to get the ball to the mismatch. to clear traffic quickly and get the ball to your overlap. to get around a rush defence. it is a key skill to anyone looking to control the attack in a game of footy.
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The perfectly timed cut out pass to a team mate running on to the ball from depth is still a key weapon in breaking down a defence. Plus when executed well itβs still a thing of beauty
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@chimoaus said in All Black backs' passing:
Perhaps the AB's need to go back and visit the Storm again. Their passing into space sure is impressive.
For most players on a league field there is only two things they need to be good at -- passing and tackling. Only the odd one has to kick, and the outsides catch a high ball, but a guy can be really good at league without any major skill except tackling and passing. Oh, and be fit.
The rest of the game comes from playing -- if you have the hand-eye co-ordination to pass, then you have it to catch. Nice if you can see space, but brute physical force will do instead.
So a league team better be good at passing.
Edit: not saying no league players don't have other skills, sometimes extraordinary ones. Just that passing and tackling are the key ones.