Aaron Smith naughty boy?
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@taniwharugby said in Aaron Smith naughty boy?:
so them outing Smith and his friend hasn't been as anonymous as we are lead to believe, otherwise why exactly are they suffering?
If totally anonymous they would be sitting back going, thank f@ck no one knows it was us!
Futile attempt to garner a shred of sympathy?
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luckily the anonymity of being a 'source' for jouranlists provides them some form of privacy, unlike walls and a locked door on a toilet.
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Anonymity is given away far too easily by journalists these days. I'm sick of reading stories where a subject only peripheral to the story is someone who ''did not want to be named'' but then casts all sorts of aspersions on the central character of the story.
And I'm in the industry!
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@Smudge Yeah. Far too many publications get away with 'a source close to' or 'an insider' 'or a friend/relative who did not wish to be named' these days. Little in the way of fact checking from a neutral perspective. So much for the fourth estate.
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@Duluth said in Aaron Smith naughty boy?:
Small airport, female employee, photo of her from behind.. All her friends and family will know exactly who it is. How is that fair?
That kind of comes with the territory when you do something like that in a public place with a high profile place, no?
Sure you don't factor in the media shit storm, but you can't protest that your privacy is being invaded when you gave that up to kick this whole thing off. Could easily be sprung bad and face employment or police charges or be spotted by a family or friend and net the same result.
She isn't a victim and doesn't deserve name suppression, at the same time outing who this lady is adds little value to the story and the media have been pretty responsible IMO of not making this lass a household name.
Much like that couple in the office building window in Christchurch a few years back, when you take risks like that it isn't incumbent on the media to stop close friends and family from putting two and two together. It is awfully nice of them to not blast your name everywhere - if this had occurred in the UK she would be front page not Smith.
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This couple are first class cowards. The husband doesn't wear the pants in that relationship. His wife sounds like a complete cow. What did they think would happen by releasing it to the media seriously...ignorant. He's now gone on to say sorry and out the female as airline staff!! Shut up man you are making it worse!!! How incredibly stupid. If his wife is so righteous and moralistic she should have no problem revealing her identity...
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http://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/85264885/aaron-smith-witnesss-full-apology
"We have had a lot of (negative) attention this past week which is very, very scary...
"You can probably guess how much of a safety threat now it would be if we were identified and this is probably the issue we did not consider at the time. We did not consider the public backlash against us....
"Yes, I regret reporting it because it has had a much more serious outcome than expected.
"[My wife] does not, as she thinks that he and the rugby union needed to be accountable.
"She said we shouldn't have had to wait like peasants to use the baby's room so that an over-paid rugby player could entertain female company. She is still fuming.
"So, in short, we as are couple are split on this question but what's done is done now."
THE APOLOGY
"I feel the need to apologise because I do not think Smith has deserved this much trouble. A slap on the hand was probably sufficient.
"We were expecting, at most, a tiny side article that no one would hardly even see."
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Given the thread I am clearly in the minority here, but I kind of agree with the wife.
"She said we shouldn't have had to wait like peasants to use the baby's room so that an over-paid rugby player could entertain female company. She is still fuming."
Fair enough too. What a ridiculous thing to do given his profile, while flying with the team, when he has a partner who is therefore in the public eye as well.
Personally, I wouldn't go as far as recording it and giving it to the press if was there, but I don't think vilifying someone who does is reasonable either.
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@TeWaio said in Aaron Smith naughty boy?:
She said we shouldn't have had to wait like peasants to use the baby's room so that an over-paid rugby player could entertain female company. She is still fuming
I feel like that's the first time we've been told they were waiting to use the bathroom after him? I wasn't under the impression that this is what happened.
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@Milk Ah ok, to be fair I've mostly been relying on the thread to keep up with what's been happening. I guess disabled loos have baby changing facilities as well so it makes sense, and makes them come off a bit better than someone just randomly lurking outside a loo?
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The so called apology and the rationale (wife's) smacks of attempted damage limitation to me.
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I can't for the life of me figure how they thought it would be nothing news....and to think that then decide to go straight to the media instead of to the NZRU who they supposedly think need to answer to this? Yeah, nah.
Waiting like peasants huh, methinks not quite. Dickheads.
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Ha!! that is new information and different to their initial story, as was the concern about the woman being an airline/airport staff member.
Human brain is a weird and wonderful thing when you are trying to justify being a dick to yourself.... and the nation...
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Colour me confused. First it was a disabled persons toilet and therefore a crime against wheelchair users but now it's a baby changing toilet?
So what happens if a disabled person needs to go to the toilet while a parent mucks around in there organising the five bags of baby kit they must carry at all times? Does that poor disabled person have to wait 'like a peasant'? -
@Milk said in Aaron Smith naughty boy?:
http://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/85264885/aaron-smith-witnesss-full-apology
"We have had a lot of (negative) attention this past week which is very, very scary...
"You can probably guess how much of a safety threat now it would be if we were identified and this is probably the issue we did not consider at the time. We did not consider the public backlash against us....
"Yes, I regret reporting it because it has had a much more serious outcome than expected.
"[My wife] does not, as she thinks that he and the rugby union needed to be accountable.
"She said we shouldn't have had to wait like peasants to use the baby's room so that an over-paid rugby player could entertain female company. She is still fuming.
I feel like this says more than anything else. And yes, couple, you are perverts. No one who records a pair of strangers having sex in a bathroom is doing it for reasons of outrage. As for trying to deflect onto the woman Smith was with by offering details, this just makes you suck even more as humans. Fuck you both. At any point here, you could have let this story die. BUT YOU KEEP MAKING MORE COMMENTS. I hope you are outed. You made your bed, now lie in it.
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@Crucial said in Aaron Smith naughty boy?:
Colour me confused. First it was a disabled persons toilet and therefore a crime against wheelchair users but now it's a baby changing toilet?
So what happens if a disabled person needs to go to the toilet while a parent mucks around in there organising the five bags of baby kit they must carry at all times? Does that poor disabled person have to wait 'like a peasant'?Yeah that confused me too. I've never seen a parents room and disabled toilet merged into one so which one is it? Or is she making stuff up to try and get more sympathy? Surely it was a disabled toilet, I can't image Smith going "yeah let's rock into the fucking parents room with kids everywhere and knock one out...".
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@No-Quarter said in Aaron Smith naughty boy?:
@Crucial said in Aaron Smith naughty boy?:
Colour me confused. First it was a disabled persons toilet and therefore a crime against wheelchair users but now it's a baby changing toilet?
So what happens if a disabled person needs to go to the toilet while a parent mucks around in there organising the five bags of baby kit they must carry at all times? Does that poor disabled person have to wait 'like a peasant'?Yeah that confused me too. I've never seen a parents room and disabled toilet merged into one so which one is it? Or is she making stuff up to try and get more sympathy? Surely it was a disabled toilet, I can't image Smith going "yeah let's rock into the fucking parents room with kids everywhere and knock one out...".
In some disabled toilets they have a fold down baby changing table because there is usually more room in those facilities.
I make no comment on what said baby changing table was used for whilst Mr Smith occupied it....
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She is turning out to be a right shit, this woman. The husband sounds like he's throwing her under the bus. If their relationship encounters some temporary friction because of their actions, then that is probably deserved. Sure they are only the messenger, but their behaviour reeks.
I also don't understand why she says Aaron Smith is overpaid. He is surely among the top 5 or 10 rugby players in the world. Anyone who is that good in a field which is highly competitive deserves to be handsomely rewarded.
