Bledisloe II - Have a stab at the teams.

Rancid Schnitzel

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The things is though Jegga, that most of the stuff I've seen from him on the 2005 incident has been for some years now, only in response to being goaded about it. For the most part he's stated that it's all water under the bridge. Unfortunately people won't let that go and seemingly he's not bright enough to ignore that. Either that or he's much brighter than he seems and he's running a double bluff. 
This latest thing is all a big hoo-ha about nothing and he's not the one making it into anything other than the insignificant exchange of views and insults than it was. Ask yourself this - was this little twitter spat worthy of such a piece of "journalism" and the concurrent outpouring of bile? 
I just don't get it mate.
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What is it you're so upset about? Most people here agree that Franks was lucky, but think that what BOD said about NZ was out of line and he's a twat for saying it. Oh yeah and Twitter is a pretty shitty thing. What's the problem exactly?

Rancid Schnitzel

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'You guys'???
 
The evidence of this whole saga is the same conclusion you can draw from all of rugby.
 
Every country has a few dickhead players, dickhead coaches, dickhead fans. No-one is above reproach at all. We are all more or less the same, and any attempts to paint whole groups of fans, nations, teams etc with the same brush are ridiculous.
 
This is the outrage cycle that consumes us all. Someone does something stupid. Someone reacts to that. And we all fly off the handle, taking up pitchforks to defend whatever side we choose.
 
Nobody wins. Ever.
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Yeah no shit, but I don't see anybody here slandering an entire nation because of an incident that occurred in a rugby game. Hence my comment that it was BOD who got wound up. Plenty of people have stated what a cock he is, but I'm yet to see anyone insult his country over this.

jegga

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The things is though Jegga, that most of the stuff I've seen from him on the 2005 incident has been for some years now, only in response to being goaded about it. For the most part he's stated that it's all water under the bridge. Unfortunately people won't let that go and seemingly he's not bright enough to ignore that. Either that or he's much brighter than he seems and he's running a double bluff. 
This latest thing is all a big hoo-ha about nothing and he's not the one making it into anything other than the insignificant exchange of views and insults than it was. Ask yourself this - was this little twitter spat worthy of such a piece of "journalism" and the concurrent outpouring of bile? 
I just don't get it mate.</blockquote>
 
I see Twitter spats about all sorts of inane shit in the news these days and I usually ignore them . This time it was about an all black game , the usual dishonest Nh shills who never miss an opportunity for a snide cheap shot at our expense piled in then Saint Brian who was martyred in 2005 decided he'd like a piece of it too . It is Twitter so what did he expect? Lots of people here still have a fair bit of contempt for him , it's hardly surprising he got the reaction here did . 
If he says its water under the bridge he's got a funny way of showing it . Taking to Twitter and fapping over an incident that the supposed " victim" says didn't actually happen wasn't a particularly wise choice from him.

Mofitzy

It's never a good idea for a "celebrity" to engage anonymous trolls who have nothing to lose and aren't necessarily representing an actual view they hold, whereas the celeb can end up saying something they regret later and look foolish.
 
It's obvious BOD has a slight chip on his shoulder but that may be a result of a literal one too...

Catogrande

<blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-cid="611147" data-time="1472642462" data-author="Rancid Schnitzel">What is it you're so upset about? Most people here agree that Franks was lucky, but think that what BOD said about NZ was out of line and he's a twat for saying it. Oh yeah and Twitter is a pretty shitty thing. What's the problem exactly?</blockquote> I'm not upset about anything really, just slightly mystified about how something so inane gets people so up in arms. As to BOD's dig at NZ as a whole, that's stretching things somewhat and the outrage it seems to cause is in contrast to the level of importance of the actual tweet, not to mention totally ignoring what provoked the tweet. As an Englishman I see God knows how many ex-players, celebs, hangers on, journos having a pop at England, the English, the British (when it's a Taff, Jock or Paddy), making all sorts of generalisations, none of them complimentary and you know what? I couldn't care less. It says a lot more about whoever the dickhead is than it does about me, England, the English or the British.

Catogrande

<blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-cid="611149" data-time="1472642974" data-author="Rancid Schnitzel">Yeah no shit, but I don't see anybody here slandering an entire nation because of an incident that occurred in a rugby game. Hence my comment that it was BOD who got wound up. Plenty of people have stated what a cock he is, but I'm yet to see anyone insult his country over this.</blockquote> "Slandering and entire nation"? Really? Was it this in response to four particular guys "You guys are so blinded by your beloved team. It bangs of not having a whole lot else"? Or was it this in response to three of those same four guys "in fairness you guys are never guilty of foul play!" And these pretty innocuous tweets are in response to things these guys have said but this is not shown. Get out in the sun a bit more, it might thicken up that skin.

Rancid Schnitzel

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I'm not upset about anything really, just slightly mystified about how something so inane gets people so up in arms. As to BOD's dig at NZ as a whole, that's stretching things somewhat and the outrage it seems to cause is in contrast to the level of importance of the actual tweet, not to mention totally ignoring what provoked the tweet. 
As an Englishman I see God knows how many ex-players, celebs, hangers on, journos having a pop at England, the English, the British (when it's a Taff, Jock or Paddy), making all sorts of generalisations, none of them complimentary and you know what? I couldn't care less. It says a lot more about whoever the dickhead is than it does about me, England, the English or the British.
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Fair play to you. But on a NZ rugby forum, it's hardly a surprise that people are going to have a crack at him for those comments, particularly when he's not exactly a fan favourite to begin with. Nothing unusual or odd there.
 
Who cares what provoked the Tweet btw? He's an idiot for getting into a fight on Twitter in the first place. Now some sad anonymous NZer (lets call him Wingar) is happily pulling himself over having provoked an Irish rugby legend over absolutely nothing.

Rancid Schnitzel

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"Slandering and entire nation"? 
Really? 
Was it this in response to four particular guys "You guys are so blinded by your beloved team. It bangs of not having a whole lot else"? 
Or was it this in response to three of those same four guys "in fairness you guys are never guilty of foul play!" 
And these pretty innocuous tweets are in response to things these guys have said but this is not shown. 
Get out in the sun a bit more, it might thicken up that skin.
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What would a Pom know about sun?

Catogrande

<blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-cid="611156" data-time="1472645448" data-author="Rancid Schnitzel">What would a Pom know about sun?</blockquote>I do go on holiday you know

Catogrande

<blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-cid="611155" data-time="1472645298" data-author="Rancid Schnitzel">Fair play to you. But on a NZ rugby forum, it's hardly a surprise that people are going to have a crack at him for those comments, particularly when he's not exactly a fan favourite to begin with. Nothing unusual or odd there. Who cares what provoked the Tweet btw? He's an idiot for getting into a fight on Twitter in the first place. Now some sad anonymous NZer (lets call him Wingar) is happily pulling himself over having provoked an Irish rugby legend over absolutely nothing.</blockquote> I totally agree with the last bit. Stupidity really. Quote Cato (above) "Unfortunately people won't let that go and seemingly he's not bright enough to ignore that. Either that or he's much brighter than he seems and he's running a double bluff." Unquote.

Milk

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When asked if he felt he had been eye-gouged, Douglas was clear.
â€œI didnâ€™t think of it like that,â€™â€™ he said. â€œIt was an All Black trying to stop me driving through the maul, arms everywhere and everything happening in a few seconds.
â€œIâ€™ve got no issue at all but obviously you want to be protecting the eyes of players.â€™â€™
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Good input from Douglas. It wasn't an eye gouge because fingers did not go into the eyes... but we need to be getting hands away from the face altogether to remove all doubt.
 
Is the fact that fingers seemingly did not go into the eyes a verdict the citing commissioner makes or the judging panel? I would have thought it was close enough to the eyes to warrant further review by the panel? Maybe the citing commissioner has more scope than I realised. I guess the games has lots of incidents and only the ones that need a penalty handed out go to the panel.

Gary

bit different from the Galarza incident that some are using as evidence that the All Blacks get treated differently - Brodie reported to the doctor at 1/2 time a finger had dislodged his contact.
 
 
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taniwharugby

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I'm not upset about anything really, just slightly mystified about how something so inane gets people so up in arms. As to BOD's dig at NZ as a whole, that's stretching things somewhat and the outrage it seems to cause is in contrast to the level of importance of the actual tweet, not to mention totally ignoring what provoked the tweet.As an Englishman I see God knows how many ex-players, celebs, hangers on, journos having a pop at England, the English, the British (when it's a Taff, Jock or Paddy), making all sorts of generalisations, none of them complimentary and you know what? I couldn't care less. It says a lot more about whoever the dickhead is than it does about me, England, the English or the British.
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 Did BOD (o other NH pundits) get all enraged about the Aussie that did what Frank's did? Cos to me that is the problem here, the perceived injustices we get away with creating a shit storm in the NH virtual world, but that has all but been ignored as it doesn't suit the narrative? 
I expect most would have been less feral in their replies if he had been fighting the fight for foul play pointing both examples rather than the dig at NZ, again, although some people are feral and no amount of even handed ness can keep them at bay.
 
For the record, it deserved a citing and thorough investigation and probably at least 2 weeks off, but I expect nothing short of a life ban would appease some of the nutters.

Immenso Rapido

I've gone almost 180 flip on this. 
Having seen the normal side on angle here, I think from a link to a Twitter warrior, then the reverse angle from the smh article - I thought that was pretty damning. 
But on the Breakdown last night there was the front on footage, and, yeah, not a gouge. Just a facial. 
Spectacularly bad PR by Sanzar. 
Wouldn't mind a short ban, as facials close to the eyes aren't good for starters. 
Are these people at Sanzar too young to remember how bad the PR was from Richard Poke-eye?

dK

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That pun doesn't work if you pronounce it correctly

Immenso Rapido

So, no one else watches The Breakdown?

mariner4life

certainly not half the refs....

jegga

Has this been posted yet?

Bit disappointing to see Kafer behaving like such a tool otherwise is so pitiful its hilarious.

This interview with Kafe was quite interesting too

pukunui

Haha THAT is the example they use to show the ABs have a lack of humility? Pathetic.
Im loving the tears from the Wallabies and their supporters/media. It shows they are in deep shit and have no idea how to get out of it. Im hoping the Boks can add to their misery this weekend.

taniwharugby

while this could hold alot of tears, I dont expect it is big enough for the torrents that have flowed the past 2 weeks!

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The Silver Fern

Bledisloe II - Have a stab at the teams.