Bledisloe II - Have a stab at the teams.
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<blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="Immenso Rapido" data-cid="611040" data-time="1472612980"><p>
When watching the Jonah tribute games on Sky last year I was amused to see Sean Fitzpatrick getting booed every touch he made in Pretoria in a NZ v Sco game - 95 RWC.<br><br>
For having the temerity to attack Le Roux's mouth with his ear a few years earlier, of course ......</p></blockquote>
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I might have mentioned this before, an aussie mate of mines Mrs at the time was South African and she hated Fitzpatrick with a passion. We once quizzed her on it and she gave the example of Fitzpatrick having bitten a bok players ear! She actually grew up believing that, we had to re-educate via the medium of youtube. Still hates him though -
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<p>He's a Scot, of course he's a miserable whinging fluffybunny</p>
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<p>Goes without saying but he comes across pretty mild compared to most.</p>
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<p>sometimes it pays to just take a breath and step away.</p>
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<p>I always re-read work e-mails several times before I send them, and for him, <strong>his public persona is quite important,</strong> so should really take a breath and think before posting.</p>
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<p>I tell my 11 & 8 year old, take 3 seconds to think about what you are going to say, alas they still say a lot of stupid shit!</p>
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<p>I doubt he cares what Kiwis think of him. His street cred etc is all in the NH, and a little anti-NZ tweet is likely to <em>increase</em> that.</p>
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<p>why did he delete it then?</p>
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<p>because he's always been a coward</p>
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<p>I read a bit of it , it was so obvious he is still bitter about the Umaga incident ,</p>
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<p>with tweets like this " <span style="color:rgb(28,32,34);font-family:Helvetica, Roboto, 'Segoe UI', Calibri, sans-serif;font-size:16px;">in fairness you guys are never guilty of foul play!"</span></p>
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<p>this isnt about the Franks incident , this is about history , </p>
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<p>He also responded graciously on a couple of occasions when I sent a book over to his law offices seeking an autograph, as gifts to my son, choosing to have them returned by hand when he had done that.</p>
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<p>I saw Farr-Jones awhile ago serving as a pundit for some live rugby event - probably the World Cup.</p>
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<p>He was dressed very casually and drinking a beer. Somehow the pundits then went through into a studio - Farr-Jones took his beer with him. That impressed me. :)</p> -
I've seen NFJ at a couple of lunches and he's excellent. Loves an ale and a chat, and has great old school touring stories (like poaching salmon in Scotland)
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<blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="barbarian" data-cid="610987" data-time="1472607562"><p>
So are we allowed to boo Owen Franks for the next 6 years now?<br><br>
I mean he attacked our player in a viscous manner and got away without any punishment...</p></blockquote>
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Quite the wordsmith for a Barbarian: you mean attacking with a thick, sticky consistency?<br><br>
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<p>Have Douglas or Poite spoken up? I suppose Poite wouldn't regardless but Douglas' silence on the matter, both during the game and after seems to indicate it wasn't as bad as some are making it out to be. The question then becomes, if it wasn't a gouge is it still foul play? It's like a tackle that rides the line between legal and illegal in that is becomes an inkblot for your own personal biases. </p>
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<p>NFJ is a legend, and I say that as someone who suffered a great deal of personal anguish and abuse due to the achievements of the team he captained. The difference between him and Elsom, Horwell or Moore is vast. In fact vast is a woefully inadequate word to describe the difference between them.</p>
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<p>To me NFJ epitomises everything that is great about rugby union.</p>
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<p>BOD on the other hand....</p>
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<p>If he wants to bitch about the decision then fine, plenty of people here aren't happy with it either. But having a go at the entire country is just sad. I guess the one good thing about the rancid sewer that is Twitter is that it's a fine way of exposing what Willis certain people are. Not that BOD needed any help in that regard.</p> -
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<p>NFJ is a legend, and I say that as someone who suffered a great deal of personal anguish and abuse due to the achievements of the team he captained. The difference between him and Elsom, Horwell or Moore is vast. In fact vast is a woefully inadequate word to describe the difference between them.</p>
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<p>To me NFJ epitomises everything that is great about rugby union.</p>
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<p>BOD on the other hand....</p>
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<p>If he wants to bitch about the decision then fine, plenty of people here aren't happy with it either. But having a go at the entire country is just sad. I guess the one good thing about the rancid sewer that is Twitter is that it's a fine way of exposing what Willis certain people are. Not that BOD needed any help in that regard.</p>
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<p>not to mention there arent too many who thought he wasnt lucky to not be cited, but if he goes feral then he needs to expect to be taken to task by ferals.</p> -
<blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="kiwiinmelb" data-cid="611068" data-time="1472622205"><p>I read a bit of it , it was so obvious he is still bitter about the Umaga incident ,<br><br>
with tweets like this " <span style="color:rgb(28,32,34);"><span style="font-family:Helvetica;"><span style="font-size:14px;">in fairness you guys are never guilty of foul play!"</span></span></span><br><br>
this isnt about the Franks incident , this is about history , <br><br>
Cry baby</p></blockquote>
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Really? I read that tweet and found it pretty funny. <br><br>
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NFJ is all but unimpeachable. Apart from his name...I called him Dick Fart-Jones as a kid, with his sidekick Michael Vagynagh.<br><br>
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Poor old BOD, he does cop it doesn't he? In his tweet he expressed an opinion on the Franks incident, an opinion that many on here feel the same about, then cops some feral responses and reacts. Cue a load of frothing on The Fern. Not much of a mention about the petty responses to his first innocuous tweet. In the report (from Stuff let us not forget, the same Stuff that has a whole thread on here to itself about how shite it is)there does not seem to be any proper attempt at a timeline and nor do we know about how many other feral tweets he got in response. His only really twatty tweet he deleted and admitted it was petty.<br><br>I'm not sure how much more the bloke can do without winding some of you guys up like clockwork. Live in a monastery and take a vow of silence might do it, but I doubt it.
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<p>Twitter is a medium as is Facebook - what you read on it is your own personal choice - suffice to say, the best and worst of humanity is easy to find. I really like Twitter, but then I don't follow "famous" people at all - if you follow the good journos and other interesting folk it is an excellent way to get a really fast impression of sporting events without having to wade through reams of words. Pick your moments, too much social media of any sort is bad for you.</p>
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<p>Poor old BOD, he does cop it doesn't he? In his tweet he expressed an opinion on the Franks incident, an opinion that many on here feel the same about, then cops some feral responses and reacts. Cue a load of frothing on The Fern. Not much of a mention about the petty responses to his first innocuous tweet. In the report (from Stuff let us not forget, the same Stuff that has a whole thread on here to itself about how shite it is)there does not seem to be any proper attempt at a timeline and nor do we know about how many other feral tweets he got in response. His only really twatty tweet he deleted and admitted it was petty.<br><br>
I'm not sure how much more the bloke can do without winding some of you guys up like clockwork.<strong> Live in a monastery and take a vow of silence might do it, butI doubt it.</strong></p>
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<p>No, I'd be cool with him doing that.</p>
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<p>With his history raising his head above the parapet and joining the thrashwank with Jones, the Turtleneck turd and Moore was never going to get him a nice response from kiwis especially on twitter . A vow of silence from him would be fantastic.</p> -
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<p>Poor old BOD, he does cop it doesn't he? In his tweet he expressed an opinion on the Franks incident, an opinion that many on here feel the same about, then cops some feral responses and reacts. Cue a load of frothing on The Fern. Not much of a mention about the petty responses to his first innocuous tweet. In the report (from Stuff let us not forget, the same Stuff that has a whole thread on here to itself about how shite it is)there does not seem to be any proper attempt at a timeline and nor do we know about how many other feral tweets he got in response. His only really twatty tweet he deleted and admitted it was petty.<br><br>
I'm not sure how much more the bloke can do without winding some of you guys up like clockwork. Live in a monastery and take a vow of silence might do it, but I doubt it.</p>
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<p>Seems like it was BOD who got all wound up this time. I'm astounded that he could have gotten feral responses on Twitter. Of all places, Twitter? That must have been totally unexpected.</p> -
The things is though Jegga, that most of the stuff I've seen from him on the 2005 incident has been for some years now, only in response to being goaded about it. For the most part he's stated that it's all water under the bridge. Unfortunately people won't let that go and seemingly he's not bright enough to ignore that. Either that or he's much brighter than he seems and he's running a double bluff.<br><br>This latest thing is all a big hoo-ha about nothing and he's not the one making it into anything other than the insignificant exchange of views and insults than it was. Ask yourself this - was this little twitter spat worthy of such a piece of "journalism" and the concurrent outpouring of bile?<br><br>I just don't get it mate.
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<p>Seems like it was BOD who got all wound up this time.</p>
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<p>Looking at the last few pages of this thread, not sure BOD is the only one getting 'all wound up'.</p>