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    With that lineout rule, is it not possible for someone to take a quick throw after a line out has formed? Just pass it to your 10 and nobody in the opposition jumps - good as gold.

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    @reprobate said in World Rugby confirms changes to be implemented across the global game:

    With that lineout rule, is it not possible for someone to take a quick throw after a line out has formed? Just pass it to your 10 and nobody in the opposition jumps - good as gold.

    Not straight if it is outside the lineout lines, even if the oppo don't jump.

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    @reprobate said in World Rugby confirms changes to be implemented across the global game:

    With that lineout rule, is it not possible for someone to take a quick throw after a line out has formed? Just pass it to your 10 and nobody in the opposition jumps - good as gold.

    Pretty sure I've seen that done already. Fuck it just pass it straight to the halfback.

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    @Bones said in World Rugby confirms changes to be implemented across the global game:

    So you're saying teams may opt to kick it past the tryline?

    No. I'm saying the risk of kicking it deeper is that they'd kick "dead", so they won't do that, and kick off's to anywhere shallow in the 22 are at risk of a decent clearance as a FK under no pressure, so kick offs are likely to be contestable. Which is a good thing.

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    @booboo said in World Rugby confirms changes to be implemented across the global game:

    @Bones said in World Rugby confirms changes to be implemented across the global game:

    So you're saying teams may opt to kick it past the tryline?

    No. I'm saying the risk of kicking it deeper is that they'd kick "dead", so they won't do that, and kick off's to anywhere shallow in the 22 are at risk of a decent clearance as a FK under no pressure, so kick offs are likely to be contestable. Which is a good thing.

    They already are. I don't get why a law that loses us yet another variation of play is a good thing.

    I like seeing teams battle to get out of their 22 from a kickoff, it's part of rugby.

    I like that we see variations on kickoffs, it's part of rugby and a good thing.

    Deterring that, isn't a good thing.

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    The not straight rule opens up some possibilities. If you are attacking 5 m out and you are convinced they won’t compete: hooker throws to 10….

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    @Billy-Tell said in World Rugby confirms changes to be implemented across the global game:

    The not straight rule opens up some possibilities. If you are attacking 5 m out and you are convinced they won’t compete: hooker throws to 10….

    You may as well not have lines out

    Oh wait...

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    The lineout throw still needs to be within the outside shoulders.

    For those saying, why not just throw it straight, it would be good if refs applied the same rules for scrum feeds.

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    @booboo said in World Rugby confirms changes to be implemented across the global game:

    🟥 A red-carded player can be replaced with another player after 20 minutes

    Excellent for unintentional head contacts, in air collisions etc. Disagree with @Dodge about level of deterrent, it's plenty. But agree with those who suggest straight red for acts of thuggery (knees, boots, punches, eye gouge etc)

    If they can separate technical red cards (20 minutes and replaced) from clear redcard level thuggery (not replaced, just removed?) then I like this.

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    @Bovidae said in World Rugby confirms changes to be implemented across the global game:

    The lineout throw still needs to be within the outside shoulders.

    For those saying, why not just throw it straight, it would be good if refs applied the same rules for scrum feeds.

    Whataboutery doesn't help either get solved.

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    They should have brought in a 20 minute orange card for dangerous but not malicious head high tackles. And left red cards for gouging kicking biting etc.

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    @Billy-Tell said in World Rugby confirms changes to be implemented across the global game:

    They should have brought in a 20 minute orange card for dangerous but not malicious head high tackles. And left red cards for gouging kicking biting etc.

    Hope they do this in the future.

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    @Bovidae said in World Rugby confirms changes to be implemented across the global game:

    The lineout throw still needs to be within the outside shoulders.

    For those saying, why not just throw it straight, it would be good if refs applied the same rules for scrum feeds.

    An unintended consequence I've noticed in npc, is there seems to be more not straights when teams contest that are let go.

    I am all for less cards, but as many above, always said a straight red should remain for thug/grub acts, but these technical ones need to be dealt with differently.

    Although in saying that, as @dodge says above, players need to adjust, although there seem some players who never learn and have multiple cards for those tackles...

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    @taniwharugby said in World Rugby confirms changes to be implemented across the global game:

    An unintended consequence I've noticed in npc, is there seems to be more not straights when teams contest that are let go.

    Sounds about right. The rest of the laws they're trying to "fix" just aren't refereed properly.

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    @Bones said in World Rugby confirms changes to be implemented across the global game:

    @taniwharugby said in World Rugby confirms changes to be implemented across the global game:

    An unintended consequence I've noticed in npc, is there seems to be more not straights when teams contest that are let go.

    Sounds about right. The rest of the laws they're trying to "fix" just aren't refereed properly.

    That’s a thing though isn’t it? And not just in relation to rugby, or even sport. There are already laws, we don’t necessarily need more laws, just fucking police the ones we already have.

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    @Catogrande said in World Rugby confirms changes to be implemented across the global game:

    @Bones said in World Rugby confirms changes to be implemented across the global game:

    @taniwharugby said in World Rugby confirms changes to be implemented across the global game:

    An unintended consequence I've noticed in npc, is there seems to be more not straights when teams contest that are let go.

    Sounds about right. The rest of the laws they're trying to "fix" just aren't refereed properly.

    That’s a thing though isn’t it? And not just in relation to rugby, or even sport. There are already laws, we don’t necessarily need more laws, just fucking police the ones we already have.

    Don't try and wind back your legalise it vote now.

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    Some shit talk on the internet as a result

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    Having watched a lot of different grades of male and female rugby over the weekend, the game killer isn’t the RC

    It’s the YC after a team has scored

    Team A commits a professional foul in the act of Team B scoring

    Team A loses a player for 10 mins

    Team B gets awarded 3, 5, 7 points, has the ball kicked back to them, and for the next 10 mins plays against 14 players during which time most teams will score again

    This creates a buffer that most teams, especially at the lower levels, can’t claw back

    I would propose that if a try is prevented then the player from Team A gets a YC and goes off for 10 but can be replaced by a teammate leaving 15 on the field

    After 10 mins the coach can bring the YC player back on or use it as a full substitution

    If Team B scores then there is no YC, just a warning against that player from Team A

    If that player from Team A commits another professional foul then it becomes a YC and the above process takes place

    It’s a bit clunky but it is early here

    It’s more akin to the personal and team foul system in basketball where it’s always 5 on 5 just not necessarily the same 5

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    Nah

    what you do is send the yellow card player off,
    BUT THEN, when the team with the man advantage scores (or the ten minutes expire - which ever comes first) thats the end of the card.
    both teams back to equal . . . so simple to administer

    should be the same for red cards
    the only difference being then, is that the red carded player doesn't come back, a different player does

    commensense

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    @mohikamo said in World Rugby confirms changes to be implemented across the global game:

    @MiketheSnow

    Nah

    what you do is send the yellow card player off,
    BUT THEN, when the team with the man advantage scores (or the ten minutes expire - which ever comes first) thats the end of the card.
    both teams back to equal . . . so simple to administer

    should be the same for red cards
    the only difference being then, is that the red carded player doesn't come back, a different player does

    commensense

    That's the ice hockey model right?

    I like it

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