World Rugby confirms changes to be implemented across the global game
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@Chris said in World Rugby confirms changes to be implemented across the global game:
⏱️60 conversion shot-clock
Like. Reduces time wasted.
⏱️ 30-second scrum and lineout limit, managed by the referee
Like. Reduces time wasted.
💪 Marking inside the 22m line from a restart
Like. forces either a long kick with risk of going in-goal, or contestable.
🏉 Single-stop mauls: The ball must be played after one stoppage in a maul
Ok. Like a good maul. Forces defenders to not spread.
🏉 Play-on un-straight line outs when uncontested
Don't like. If you throw it not straight it's your error. Have seen awful not straights, with this rule in place, where opposition just could not compete and pulled out of jumping called not contested. They couldn't contest. Just throw it straight. If you don't it's an error that should be punished.
🏉 Protection of the scrum-half at scrums, rucks and mauls.
Don't get this, need additional info. You can't play any player without the ball, but should be able to smack him as soon as he has ball in possession. If he gets swamped in a legit counter ruck tough shit.
📺 Television Match Official (TMO) protocol, empowering officials to spot clear infringements in the final phases before scoring.
Ok, but don't go looking for stuff that is inconclusive, only definitive (cough Taylor to Reece Bled 1)
🟥 A red-carded player can be replaced with another player after 20 minutes
Excellent for unintentional head contacts, in air collisions etc. Disagree with @Dodge about level of deterrent, it's plenty. But agree with those who suggest straight red for acts of thuggery (knees, boots, punches, eye gouge etc)
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@booboo said in World Rugby confirms changes to be implemented across the global game:
Like. forces either a long kick with risk of going in-goal, or contestable.
So you're saying teams may opt to kick it past the tryline? Yeah, nah.
All evidence so far points to it being dumb. It just provides most teams with a clean option to hoof it out upfield, rather than work to retain the ball and then risk doing without the extra 10 metres.
You will very rarely see teams trying to work their way out of their own 22.
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@reprobate said in World Rugby confirms changes to be implemented across the global game:
With that lineout rule, is it not possible for someone to take a quick throw after a line out has formed? Just pass it to your 10 and nobody in the opposition jumps - good as gold.
Not straight if it is outside the lineout lines, even if the oppo don't jump.
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@reprobate said in World Rugby confirms changes to be implemented across the global game:
With that lineout rule, is it not possible for someone to take a quick throw after a line out has formed? Just pass it to your 10 and nobody in the opposition jumps - good as gold.
Pretty sure I've seen that done already. Fuck it just pass it straight to the halfback.
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@Bones said in World Rugby confirms changes to be implemented across the global game:
So you're saying teams may opt to kick it past the tryline?
No. I'm saying the risk of kicking it deeper is that they'd kick "dead", so they won't do that, and kick off's to anywhere shallow in the 22 are at risk of a decent clearance as a FK under no pressure, so kick offs are likely to be contestable. Which is a good thing.
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@booboo said in World Rugby confirms changes to be implemented across the global game:
@Bones said in World Rugby confirms changes to be implemented across the global game:
So you're saying teams may opt to kick it past the tryline?
No. I'm saying the risk of kicking it deeper is that they'd kick "dead", so they won't do that, and kick off's to anywhere shallow in the 22 are at risk of a decent clearance as a FK under no pressure, so kick offs are likely to be contestable. Which is a good thing.
They already are. I don't get why a law that loses us yet another variation of play is a good thing.
I like seeing teams battle to get out of their 22 from a kickoff, it's part of rugby.
I like that we see variations on kickoffs, it's part of rugby and a good thing.
Deterring that, isn't a good thing.
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The not straight rule opens up some possibilities. If you are attacking 5 m out and you are convinced they won’t compete: hooker throws to 10….
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@Billy-Tell said in World Rugby confirms changes to be implemented across the global game:
The not straight rule opens up some possibilities. If you are attacking 5 m out and you are convinced they won’t compete: hooker throws to 10….
You may as well not have lines out
Oh wait...
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@booboo said in World Rugby confirms changes to be implemented across the global game:
🟥 A red-carded player can be replaced with another player after 20 minutes
Excellent for unintentional head contacts, in air collisions etc. Disagree with @Dodge about level of deterrent, it's plenty. But agree with those who suggest straight red for acts of thuggery (knees, boots, punches, eye gouge etc)
If they can separate technical red cards (20 minutes and replaced) from clear redcard level thuggery (not replaced, just removed?) then I like this.
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@Bovidae said in World Rugby confirms changes to be implemented across the global game:
The lineout throw still needs to be within the outside shoulders.
For those saying, why not just throw it straight, it would be good if refs applied the same rules for scrum feeds.
Whataboutery doesn't help either get solved.
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They should have brought in a 20 minute orange card for dangerous but not malicious head high tackles. And left red cards for gouging kicking biting etc.
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@Billy-Tell said in World Rugby confirms changes to be implemented across the global game:
They should have brought in a 20 minute orange card for dangerous but not malicious head high tackles. And left red cards for gouging kicking biting etc.
Hope they do this in the future.
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@Bovidae said in World Rugby confirms changes to be implemented across the global game:
The lineout throw still needs to be within the outside shoulders.
For those saying, why not just throw it straight, it would be good if refs applied the same rules for scrum feeds.
An unintended consequence I've noticed in npc, is there seems to be more not straights when teams contest that are let go.
I am all for less cards, but as many above, always said a straight red should remain for thug/grub acts, but these technical ones need to be dealt with differently.
Although in saying that, as @dodge says above, players need to adjust, although there seem some players who never learn and have multiple cards for those tackles...
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@taniwharugby said in World Rugby confirms changes to be implemented across the global game:
An unintended consequence I've noticed in npc, is there seems to be more not straights when teams contest that are let go.
Sounds about right. The rest of the laws they're trying to "fix" just aren't refereed properly.
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@Bones said in World Rugby confirms changes to be implemented across the global game:
@taniwharugby said in World Rugby confirms changes to be implemented across the global game:
An unintended consequence I've noticed in npc, is there seems to be more not straights when teams contest that are let go.
Sounds about right. The rest of the laws they're trying to "fix" just aren't refereed properly.
That’s a thing though isn’t it? And not just in relation to rugby, or even sport. There are already laws, we don’t necessarily need more laws, just fucking police the ones we already have.
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@Catogrande said in World Rugby confirms changes to be implemented across the global game:
@Bones said in World Rugby confirms changes to be implemented across the global game:
@taniwharugby said in World Rugby confirms changes to be implemented across the global game:
An unintended consequence I've noticed in npc, is there seems to be more not straights when teams contest that are let go.
Sounds about right. The rest of the laws they're trying to "fix" just aren't refereed properly.
That’s a thing though isn’t it? And not just in relation to rugby, or even sport. There are already laws, we don’t necessarily need more laws, just fucking police the ones we already have.
Don't try and wind back your legalise it vote now.
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Having watched a lot of different grades of male and female rugby over the weekend, the game killer isn’t the RC
It’s the YC after a team has scored
Team A commits a professional foul in the act of Team B scoring
Team A loses a player for 10 mins
Team B gets awarded 3, 5, 7 points, has the ball kicked back to them, and for the next 10 mins plays against 14 players during which time most teams will score again
This creates a buffer that most teams, especially at the lower levels, can’t claw back
I would propose that if a try is prevented then the player from Team A gets a YC and goes off for 10 but can be replaced by a teammate leaving 15 on the field
After 10 mins the coach can bring the YC player back on or use it as a full substitution
If Team B scores then there is no YC, just a warning against that player from Team A
If that player from Team A commits another professional foul then it becomes a YC and the above process takes place
It’s a bit clunky but it is early here
It’s more akin to the personal and team foul system in basketball where it’s always 5 on 5 just not necessarily the same 5
