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    @Machpants said in All Blacks EOYT:

    @Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks EOYT:

    @Tim said in All Blacks EOYT:

    @Machpants said in All Blacks EOYT:

    We need to play more direct, off nine

    I do hope that Roigard's availability might cause a shift to more of that style.

    I think it's a team headspace thing

    I've lost count of the number of times we are making progress close to the try-line, lose faith in ourselves to actually get the forwards over the try-line and spin it seemingly out too early with the inevitable mistakes.

    Or chip kick or kick pass 🤮

    From 90-10m out...

    It is odd how Razor is using similar style as we have had, whereas his.super teams always played a style.more.akin to test rugby, and the tighter NH style too.

    Hopefully we will see something different in the tour as he really needs to stamp his own style on the team, which as many have said, his continued selection of some players seems he is simply following the same.path we have for 5 -7 years.

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    @Victor-Meldrew If we lose to England I'll be devastated.

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    If Sititi plays a blinder against Japan I'd throw caution to the wind and swap Savea to 6 v England.
    Sititi - Roigard/Ratima- DMac is quite a handful for any team to deal with.

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    @BerniesCorner said in All Blacks EOYT:

    If Sititi plays a blinder against Japan I'd throw caution to the wind and swap Savea to 6 v England.
    Sititi - Roigard/Ratima- DMac is quite a handful for any team to deal with.

    Savea at 6? May be better off the bench in that case?

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    @BerniesCorner said in All Blacks EOYT:

    If Sititi plays a blinder against Japan I'd throw caution to the wind and swap Savea to 6 v England.
    Sititi - Roigard/Ratima- DMac is quite a handful for any team to deal with.

    Yeah I don't see him being markedly better than Savea and certainly wouldn't be comfortable it being based off turning up against Japan. If so, why not promote all the players that perform against Japan?

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    @Machpants from what I hear we are sticking to the fast game plan, Razor reckons he can execute it by the 27 RWC.
    The players from Fosters team are getting the first shot and then others will be brought in when they don't cut it.

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    @BorderJB said in All Blacks EOYT:

    @Machpants from what I hear we are sticking to the fast game plan, Razor reckons he can execute it by the 27 RWC.
    The players from Fosters team are getting the first shot and then others will be brought in when they don't cut it.

    Sounds like he rates Foster then. Which seems very bizarre considering.

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    @gt12 said in All Blacks EOYT:

    @junior said in All Blacks EOYT:

    @gt12 said in All Blacks EOYT:

    @Frank said in All Blacks EOYT:

    @No-Quarter
    Fair points.
    It still doesn't excuse Sotutu not getting fitter when he had been asked to.
    "he didn’t even get close"
    (chchfanatic's sources have been spot on)

    I’d be fascinated to find out what Cotter would say about his fitness.

    And if the Blues wanted more weight on their forwards given their game plan (which worked).

    I am really struggling to see how the guy who was the best player in super rugby is apparently not fit. Logically, it makes no sense that someone can play that well despite apparently being unfit.

    Or, from the other aspect, why wouldn't you put someone playing that well, unfit, into your systems and get them to your desired fitness?

    Anyone know Kieran Read’s bronco times?

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    @pakman said in All Blacks EOYT:

    @gt12 said in All Blacks EOYT:

    @junior said in All Blacks EOYT:

    @gt12 said in All Blacks EOYT:

    @Frank said in All Blacks EOYT:

    @No-Quarter
    Fair points.
    It still doesn't excuse Sotutu not getting fitter when he had been asked to.
    "he didn’t even get close"
    (chchfanatic's sources have been spot on)

    I’d be fascinated to find out what Cotter would say about his fitness.

    And if the Blues wanted more weight on their forwards given their game plan (which worked).

    I am really struggling to see how the guy who was the best player in super rugby is apparently not fit. Logically, it makes no sense that someone can play that well despite apparently being unfit.

    Or, from the other aspect, why wouldn't you put someone playing that well, unfit, into your systems and get them to your desired fitness?
    Anyone know Kieran Read’s bronco times?

    Read was quite poor by that metric I seem to recall. Made up for by McCaw being superb. Balance in the trio is key.

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    @reprobate said in All Blacks EOYT:

    Balance in the trio is key.

    I agree completely. Which is why playing multiple 7s makes me shake my head

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    @nzzp 6 + 8 + 7 = 21
    3 x 7 = 21
    Same same...however, 6.5 x 3....

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    @taniwharugby said in All Blacks EOYT:

    @nzzp 6 + 8 + 7 = 21
    3 x 7 = 21
    Same same...however, 6.5 x 3....

    Are you suggesting that one openside flanker is worth more than a whole front row combined??

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    @taniwharugby said in All Blacks EOYT:

    @nzzp 6 + 8 + 7 = 21
    3 x 7 = 21
    Same same...however, 6.5 x 3....

    Isn't Finau a 5.5?!

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    #768

    Jerry Collins: (8 + 6 ) / 2 = 7
    McCaw: 7
    Rodders: (7 + 8 ) / 2 = 7.5

    No wonder they were so good = 21.5

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    What if Oli Mathis makes the AB's?
    (14+7) / 2 = 10.5
    He would be the ultimate loose forward?

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    i think the Blues guys are right, Dalton Papali'i is the guy we need
    (7+20)/2 = 13.5

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    @mariner4life said in All Blacks EOYT:

    i think the Blues guys are right, Dalton Papali'i is the guy we need
    (7+20)/2 = 13.5

    We only do fullbacks to centre, not opensides to centre….

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    @ACT-Crusader said in All Blacks EOYT:

    @mariner4life said in All Blacks EOYT:

    i think the Blues guys are right, Dalton Papali'i is the guy we need
    (7+20)/2 = 13.5

    We only do fullbacks to centre, not opensides to centre….

    your Ardie to 12 campaign says otherwise!!

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    @mariner4life said in All Blacks EOYT:

    @ACT-Crusader said in All Blacks EOYT:

    @mariner4life said in All Blacks EOYT:

    i think the Blues guys are right, Dalton Papali'i is the guy we need
    (7+20)/2 = 13.5

    We only do fullbacks to centre, not opensides to centre….

    your Ardie to 12 campaign says otherwise!!

    Faaark bro stop living in the past, Ardie's an 8.

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    @Bones said in All Blacks EOYT:

    @BerniesCorner said in All Blacks EOYT:

    If Sititi plays a blinder against Japan I'd throw caution to the wind and swap Savea to 6 v England.
    Sititi - Roigard/Ratima- DMac is quite a handful for any team to deal with.

    Yeah I don't see him being markedly better than Savea and certainly wouldn't be comfortable it being based off turning up against Japan. If so, why not promote all the players that perform against Japan?

    It would have been smarter to trial players in the second Wobs test...

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