Springboks vs All Blacks I
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@pakman said in Springboks vs All Blacks I:
@BerniesCorner said in Springboks vs All Blacks I:
If we do happen to have a good first half cant see the rationale to bring the subs on at a set time.
Keep the starting lineup on as necessary and see how gets on.I meant the Boks changing out their fatties at 40. We ought to get more from ours.
let's hope Taimati Williams starts again.
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@Bones said in Springboks vs All Blacks I:
@pakman shit I just realised Ratima and Finau have the same initials as their future replacements.
And I thought everyone was being replaced by 'AI' these days. Maybe the selectors are showing they are boomers and missed the trend at 6...
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@canefan said in Springboks vs All Blacks I:
@BerniesCorner I don't like predetermined subs either. Especially if affects our momentum like last Saturday
I don’t think last weekend was predetermined. In fact far from it. That was more a case of “we are up by plenty, clear the bench”.
Doubt that will happen this weekend.
The Boks have a clear strategy when it comes to subbing their front row forwards.
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@pakman said in Springboks vs All Blacks I:
Pakman team, assuming EDG fit, but Paddy not:
EDG/CT/TL/SB/TV/SC/SF/RD/TJS(!)/DMac/CC/JB/RI/WJ/BB
Bench: TW/AA/FN/SD/DP/CR/ALB/MT
6/2 bench I reckon. Don’t need an outside back replacement for this test with Jordie and Ioane in the team.
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@Duluth said in Springboks vs All Blacks I:
I wonder when the last time you could get odds like that on NZ?
Maybe Ellis Park a couple of years ago?
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@MiketheSnow said in Springboks vs All Blacks I:
Based on actual recent performances then SA should go 2-0
I must be imagining that they lost to Ireland then. At home.
They will be a challenge, for sure, but their current record isn't actually that much better than ours.
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What we can field is not too far from what we fielded in the RWC final; lock and halfback are the major downgrades - otherwise, we can challenge them.
Hopefully, we've plenty of experience in tipping them over at home.
de Groot (Williams)
Taylor
Lomax
Retallick (Darry)
Barrett
Frizell (Blackadder)
Cane
Savea
Smith (Perenara)
Mo'unga (DMac)
Tele'a ( Clarke)
Barrett
Ioane
Jordan
BarrettTaukeoi'aho (Aumua)
Williams (Tuúngafasi)
Laulala (Newell)
Whitelock (Vaai)
Papali'i
Christie (Ratima)
DMac (Tele'a)
Lienert-Brown -
@nzzp said in Springboks vs All Blacks I:
@ACT-Crusader Jack and Maling at lock?
Rugby union: Tri Nations: South Africa 40 - 26 New Zealand
South Africa 40 - 26 New Zealand: Marius Joubert scored a hat-trick of tries to keep alive the Springboks' hopes of winning the Tri Nations.
What is sad about that test is that Mils scored one of the best tries of his career. But nightmares of the likes of DWB, Joubert, JdV running through and around the ABs like we were stuck in quicksand whilst 60,000+ Bok supporters were screaming the house down.
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@Chris-B said in Springboks vs All Blacks I:
What we can field is not too far from what we fielded in the RWC final; lock and halfback are the major downgrades - otherwise, we can challenge them.
Hopefully, we've plenty of experience in tipping them over at home.
Williams (de Groot)
Taylor
Lomax
Retallick (Darry)
Barrett
Frizell (Blackadder)
Cane
Savea
Smith (Perenara)
Mo'unga (DMac)
Tele'a ( Clarke)
Barrett
Ioane
Jordan
BarrettTaukeoi'aho (Aumua)
Williams (Tuúngafasi)
Laulala (Newell)
Whitelock (Vaai)
Papali'i
Christie (Ratima)
DMac (Tele'a)
Lienert-BrownDarry and Scooter are both LH locks, and against starting Bok scrum Vaa’i who is good both sides makes more sense.
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@pakman TBH I'd have thought Scott would be our best tighthead lock now and I'm pairing Darry with him for his lineout work.
However, I'm not too bothered if they go Vaa'i/Barrett.
Main purpose of my post is to show we can field something not too far short of what we fielded in October. (Razor might e.g. prefer Paps over Cane).
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@Chester-Draws said in Springboks vs All Blacks I:
@MiketheSnow said in Springboks vs All Blacks I:
Based on actual recent performances then SA should go 2-0
I must be imagining that they lost to Ireland then. At home.
They will be a challenge, for sure, but their current record isn't actually that much better than ours.
No no no, you’ve got it completely wrong. They are the Boks. They have 150kg front rowers that are immovable but fleet footed. Their locks are 7 foot tall, have 40 inch verticals meaning they never lose a lineout. And check out their loose forwards, there’s only 3 of them but you’d swear they had about 12 hard shoulders between them.
Flyhalf and fullback that kick 60 metres on the fly, wingers that just toy with their opposition with their pace. A midfield that are the size of loose forwards but run sub 11 second hundreds.
What hope do the little ol ABs have? Even the loyals have given up with comments after every test match this year like - “nothing that would trouble the Boks”, “they wouldn’t be scared”, “where’s aura?”, “they will trounce us”.
Just hand them the silverware now and we can all have a good nights rest on Sunday morning week.
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@Chris-B said in Springboks vs All Blacks I:
@pakman TBH I'd have thought Scott would be our best tighthead lock now and I'm pairing Darry with him for his lineout work.
However, I'm not too bothered if they go Vaa'i/Barrett.
Main purpose of my post is to show we can field something not too far short of what we fielded in October. (Razor might e.g. prefer Paps over Cane).
I prefer Ofa to face Frans (if EDG, who handles Frans well, not available).
When things free up in second I like the greater mobility of Paps and Williams.
