All Blacks vs Argentina I
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@Dan54 said in All Blacks vs Argentina I - 10 August:
Ok fellas, bottom line is we lost last night (looked poor), but positive we got Pumas at home next week, and they not really that good so we will win then. So will everything be ok then?
The way we play has to change. That's almost as important as the result. Another scratchy victory will only paper over the cracks
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I'm getting real sick of hearing players say they've gotta take the learnings. And it irritates beyond the grammar; just why do you need to learn the same dumb shit time after time as professional rugby players?
Does losing actually hurt anymore? I can't imagine a bunch of these players would survive with All Blacks from previous the millenia.
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@Dan54 said in All Blacks vs Argentina I - 10 August:
Ok fellas, bottom line is we lost last night (looked poor), but positive we got Pumas at home next week, and they not really that good so we will win then. So will everything be ok then?
Not sure you've been paying attention, but we just lost to the Pumas at home.
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Darry did his job well in the lineout but so were the other targets at the time. Did anyone notice whether he stood up in the dark stuff? Did he win his collisions, knock people back? I am not saying he didn't, I just didn't notice because I was looking at other stuff.
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@Tordah said in All Blacks vs Argentina I - 10 August:
the good thing about the ABs slowly having become a good instead of an incredible team (circa 2010-2016) is that losses don't take an emotional toll on my well being anymore. Another loss? no problem, I'll go back to pretending rugby doesn't exist
Yep, doesn't hurt nearly as much anymore. But I kind of miss that. I hope we get back to that level but I think I know in my heart we probably never will.
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@antipodean said in All Blacks vs Argentina I:
I'm getting real sick of hearing players say they've gotta take the learnings. And it irritates beyond the grammar; just why do you need to learn the same dumb shit time after time as professional rugby players?
Does losing actually hurt anymore? I can't imagine a bunch of these players would survive with All Blacks from previous the millenia.
They're a different breed. Raised on social media and media trained to an inch of their lives. Same with the majority of ex players providing insight. Usual banal or canned statements. Well apart from SBW, but that's because he's a farking tard.
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@antipodean said in All Blacks vs Argentina I:
I'm getting real sick of hearing players say they've gotta take the learnings. And it irritates beyond the grammar; just why do you need to learn the same dumb shit time after time as professional rugby players?
Does losing actually hurt anymore? I can't imagine a bunch of these players would survive with All Blacks from previous the millenia.
Yep I feel exactly the same way, sick of hearing that shit,I reckon you are right it doesn't hurt these players enough when they lose its just another lose now.
It is starting as a Fan to make me feel the same as no end seems to be in sight. -
@Chris said in All Blacks vs Argentina I:
@antipodean said in All Blacks vs Argentina I:
I'm getting real sick of hearing players say they've gotta take the learnings. And it irritates beyond the grammar; just why do you need to learn the same dumb shit time after time as professional rugby players?
Does losing actually hurt anymore? I can't imagine a bunch of these players would survive with All Blacks from previous the millenia.
Yep I feel exactly the same way, sick of hearing that shit,I reckon you are right it doesn't hurt these players enough when they lose its just another lose now.
It is starting as a Fan to make me feel the same as no end seems to be in sight.No wonder the games don't sell out right now. Not saying the players don't have pride (I'm sure they do), but there just doesn't seem to be the intensity to not lose as there used to. It's probably just me getting older... Apparently you can still buy tickets to EP for this weekend
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@canefan said in All Blacks vs Argentina I:
@Chris said in All Blacks vs Argentina I:
@antipodean said in All Blacks vs Argentina I:
I'm getting real sick of hearing players say they've gotta take the learnings. And it irritates beyond the grammar; just why do you need to learn the same dumb shit time after time as professional rugby players?
Does losing actually hurt anymore? I can't imagine a bunch of these players would survive with All Blacks from previous the millenia.
Yep I feel exactly the same way, sick of hearing that shit,I reckon you are right it doesn't hurt these players enough when they lose its just another lose now.
It is starting as a Fan to make me feel the same as no end seems to be in sight.No wonder the games don't sell out right now. Not saying the players don't have pride (I'm sure they do), but there just doesn't seem to be the intensity to not lose as there used to. It's probably just me getting older... Apparently you can still buy tickets to EP for this weekend
Sad but True.
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@antipodean said in All Blacks vs Argentina I:
I'm getting real sick of hearing players say they've gotta take the learnings. And it irritates beyond the grammar; just why do you need to learn the same dumb shit time after time as professional rugby players?
Does losing actually hurt anymore? I can't imagine a bunch of these players would survive with All Blacks from previous the millenia.
Watching the interview with Will Jordan after the match, grinning his head off, doing autographs and selfies for fans, and not showing an ounce of regret/hurt.
Fuck that.
And then pulling out all the same vague bullshit in the actual 'interview', obviously not knowing what all the buzzwords are even intended to actually mean... just... that's what he got taught in "Interviews 101". -
I yearn for the days of Henry, Smith and Hansen. This really was a well balanced coaching panel. Very well lead by Hnery who had the maturity to handle this job with ease
I think today the only one who comes close today is Jamie Joseph (NZR made a mistake not appointing him years back). Robertson is struggling. He seems like a very good man but does he have the maturity to do this job? I have my doubts.
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@Canes4life said in All Blacks vs Argentina I:
@Chris said in All Blacks vs Argentina I - 10 August:
@Canes4life said in All Blacks vs Argentina I - 10 August:
@Chris said in All Blacks vs Argentina I - 10 August:
@antipodean said in All Blacks vs Argentina I - 10 August:
@Chris said in All Blacks vs Argentina I - 10 August:
@antipodean said in All Blacks vs Argentina I - 10 August:
@Chris said in All Blacks vs Argentina I - 10 August:
@antipodean said in All Blacks vs Argentina I - 10 August:
@Canes4life said in All Blacks vs Argentina I - 10 August:
@nostrildamus said in All Blacks vs Argentina I - 10 August:
Aumua took a great time to throw so badly
No one jumped though. Just piss poor all around. Horrible game overall by the ABs.
Why are people blaming Aumua for a lineout where he had no targets? The whole thing was a debacle and speaks volumes about the coaching and selecting.
Fucking abysmal. At least Fozzie got us to a RWC final.
Because he didn’t throw one straight since he came on.
No. One. Jumped.
What every line out
Too difficult to grasp we're talking about the last lineout?
All 4 Amua fucked up by not throwing straight not just the last one.
Bahaha it wasn’t all Aumua’s fault. How does no one even jumping land on his shoulders. You’re just trying to deflect blame from poor coaching. Taylor was the shit throwing hooker in the two tests in England and we were lucky to get out of those tests without atleast one loss. Razor has a lot of work to do. The honeymoon is over.
He couldn’t hit fuck all tonight had a shocker
Terrible performance like a lot of them
TJ, Jordie just really poor.
Drop them all useless.Drop Taylor and Blackadder aswell. No effect at all. Blackadder flying back like that as our enforcer and then missing a one on one tackle under our posts was just embarrassing. Taylor shouldn’t have been starting tonight, he was garbage in the first two tests. Maybe starting Aumua would have given him more confidence instead of throwing him in last minute when we were already under the pump.
Again, it falls on Razor with shit selections and shit tactics.
He chose not to select the form Super players like Sotutu, Love, Lakai, Ioane etc so he can fall on the sword when it all turns to shit for all I care.
Drop the best lineouts thrower and the leading tackler... ...real smart 🙄
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As for the game itself
Newell needs to go. Just too limited. I would bring in Williams and Tosi.
Taylor is so past his best now I would prefer RR. With Aumua starting. Aumua is not a great replacement with 15 minutes left type player. Esp with jumper forgetting to jump
Darry was VG. Why was he initially excluded. And why was he taken off?
Blackadder is not the answer at 6. He remind me a bit of a fish out of water
I thought Perenara did well. And Ratima was no better. But would still start Ratima next week. For one to stop the stuck record regardless of how he's playing with TJ
ALB is not a center. I would give Barrett a rest next week with ALB and Proctor starting.
Is it worth bringing Cane back at 7? Dalton is fine but Cane is better
Reece is a fine SRP player but too small and too slow for a test AB.My back three for next week would at Reiko, Clarke and Love (or maybe BB or Jordan). But why Love wasn't in the initial squad and tried before now is a mystery to me. His decison making and kicking for the Canes was first rate. And he's fast and a great step when required
Jordan could come off the bench again. With Jordan, BB and Perenara. Jordie a rest)
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@antipodean said in All Blacks vs Argentina I:
I'm getting real sick of hearing players say they've gotta take the learnings. And it irritates beyond the grammar; just why do you need to learn the same dumb shit time after time as professional rugby players?
Does losing actually hurt anymore? I can't imagine a bunch of these players would survive with All Blacks from previous the millenia.
Yeah I’ve been feeling this for a while ,
I’m probably a dinosaur but we have lost our ruthlessness,
Probably left us when mccaw retired and has never returned , he was the last of the old school leaders .
I miss those days when were hated and called cheats .
Now we are mr nice guys . -
@kiwiinmelb said in All Blacks vs Argentina I:
@antipodean said in All Blacks vs Argentina I:
I'm getting real sick of hearing players say they've gotta take the learnings. And it irritates beyond the grammar; just why do you need to learn the same dumb shit time after time as professional rugby players?
Does losing actually hurt anymore? I can't imagine a bunch of these players would survive with All Blacks from previous the millenia.
Yeah I’ve been feeling this for a while ,
I’m probably a dinosaur but we have lost our ruthlessness,
Probably left us when mccaw retired and has never returned , he was the last of the old school leaders .
I miss those days when were hated and called cheats .
Now we are mr nice guys .All went down hill once forwards could wear coloured boots
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@kiwiinmelb said in All Blacks vs Argentina I:
@antipodean said in All Blacks vs Argentina I:
I'm getting real sick of hearing players say they've gotta take the learnings. And it irritates beyond the grammar; just why do you need to learn the same dumb shit time after time as professional rugby players?
Does losing actually hurt anymore? I can't imagine a bunch of these players would survive with All Blacks from previous the millenia.
Now we are mr nice guys .
Just like the Black Caps
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@Crazy-Horse said in All Blacks vs Argentina I:
@kiwiinmelb said in All Blacks vs Argentina I:
@antipodean said in All Blacks vs Argentina I:
I'm getting real sick of hearing players say they've gotta take the learnings. And it irritates beyond the grammar; just why do you need to learn the same dumb shit time after time as professional rugby players?
Does losing actually hurt anymore? I can't imagine a bunch of these players would survive with All Blacks from previous the millenia.
Now we are mr nice guys .
Just like the Black Caps
A deep dark winter has fallen on us
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If there’s one consolation, I just saw the AUS vs RSA game. We may still keep the Bledisloe.
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@antipodean said in All Blacks vs Argentina I:
@Dan54 said in All Blacks vs Argentina I - 10 August:
Ok fellas, bottom line is we lost last night (looked poor), but positive we got Pumas at home next week, and they not really that good so we will win then. So will everything be ok then?
Not sure you've been paying attention, but we just lost to the Pumas at home.
Being a bit tongue in cheek mate, let's face it we all thought a couple of games at home against Pumas was reasonably easy.
