All Blacks vs England I
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@mencey said in All Blacks vs England I:
@chimoaus said in All Blacks vs England I:
I actually think a tight 1 point win and players being under massive pressure is a really good outcome. It shows exactly where we need to improve. What players need to step uo etc. Had we played Tonga and won by 70 we would be none the wiser.
Fucking well said that man. WC are won by single points as we have seen. we need to learn to be under intense pressure and pull through. The days are gone of the 50 plus wins. in 3 years when we win the next world cup it will have been because of games like this.
Settle down
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@Tim said in All Blacks vs England I:
You can see why Robertson wants Mo'unga back.
Fuck that man is missed. we need him back to have a complete team. Him Jorden an Roigard IMHO. Sorry for the spelling but had a few Have been up for that last 18 - 20 hours here in Canada. U kn ow I am a canes and Welling fan but I have complete faith in Razor. This man is special. In the next few years I C the All Black dominance coming back !!
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@chimoaus said in All Blacks vs England I:
On the positive I enjoyed the game and really looking forward to next week. I am confident the coaches will grow over the season and adapt as they go.
This is the first test and people on here are shitting themselves. I have complete and utter confidence in Razor and his team. in 3 years and 7 years time when we are winning our 4th and 5th world cup all the criticism will be laughed at.
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Prefer a test like that than a stroll in the park vs Tonga!
Aside from either side of halftime when we played dumb rugby that was pretty good. England played bloody well but so did we generally. Subs were made at the right time. For a first game in charge against a team that came to win I’ll take that.
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@nzzp said in All Blacks vs England I:
@mencey said in All Blacks vs England I:
Fuck that man is missed. we need him back to have a complete team.
Mo'unga: 70% win rate as AB 10.
That might improve under a different coach on that basis most of the team had a low win rate under Foster.
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Mo'unga back is the last thing we need. How many years did he have to cement his spot and become a great test 10? At least one too many.
Time to move on. DMac wasn't perfect last night, but the first half I thought he played really well. Fuck, we even had an exit from our 22 into their half, seems like that hasn't happened since DC laced them up.
Put DMac outside A Smith and I'd suggest he would look significantly better - the drop in the 2nd half looked to me to be much more due to the quality of ball he was getting than anything else. The aimless kicking resurfaced, but that was a feature of the BB/RM years also so I'm not pinning that on him.
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LOL new season and some things never change. Tim wanking on about how amazeballs papali’i is and how everyone else is useless. Don’t change Tim!
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@KiwiMurph said in All Blacks vs England I:
@No-Quarter we badly need Roigard back to 100%
Fucking Ah
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@chimoaus said in All Blacks vs England I:
@Tim said in All Blacks vs England I:
@chucknz waaaaa
Robertson is inexperienced at international level and it showed. They had a shit game plan and wer almost beaten.
Undefeated at international level. 😉
You might want to look up Brasil's results while he was there.
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@Billy-Tell said in All Blacks vs England I:
Prefer a test like that than a stroll in the park vs Tonga!
Aside from either side of halftime when we played dumb rugby that was pretty good. England played bloody well but so did we generally. Subs were made at the right time. For a first game in charge against a team that came to win I’ll take that.
I was very happy about the subbing, previous era was far too often rigid, late, and conservative IMO.
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@sparky said in All Blacks vs England I:
A Bok-style one point win.
I could get used to those. 😎
spoken like a professional cardiologist in private practice...
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I thought Perofeta had a really good game. Composed, dangerous with pill in hand and excellent decison-making.
I've made no secret of the fact that I don't see Ioane as a 13. I will concede he did well at the RWC last year but last night seemed to involve himself more in a way that didn't suit his skillset, i.e. distribution, linking. I'd obviously prefer him at wing but if he's going to be 13 then he has to stay in his lane so to speak.
Oh yes, and Jordie is a 12. And a pretty fůcking good one.
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One thing I would add, and maybe this is because the ref was Georgian, but that test actually flowed. They didn't review every single farking tackle or movement. I felt I actually watched a game of rugby and not the stop-start-review trash from recent years.
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All Blacks v England: Player ratings from a tense test match
Assessing the best – and worst – of the performances in a tough opening test.
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@Billy-Tell said in All Blacks vs England I:
LOL new season and some things never change. Tim wanking on about how amazeballs papali’i is and how everyone else is useless. Don’t change Tim!
It must be so hard for Papalii to lift himself when he’s surrounded by such mediocrity
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@MadGav said in All Blacks vs England I:
@Victor-Meldrew if Dmac had nailed his we would have won by more
If, but, maybe
Why is this forum so negative
England are a GOOD TEAMThe negativity is always there in the match threads and they're often entertaining when you read them the next day already knowing the outcome. That's often part of the fun of this place. We all say something silly in the heat of the moment in a match thread.
But, this may have been the worst one ever, it seemed to just be filled with posters complaining about players or hyping players based on franchise preference.
If we run the AI for this thread it will likely say every player was both shit and awesome.
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Some interesting ratings as is often the case. I think Reece deserved a 9 and not quite sure how Vaa’i got 7 and Aumua only 6 ?
Overall one would think the ABs won by more than a solitary point.
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I didn't notice much comment on Jacobson- he had 3 tackles in 19 minutes? But I didn't see much of him after the first 2 or 3 minutes of his cameo..
