All Blacks vs England I
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@nzzp said in All Blacks vs England I:
@mencey said in All Blacks vs England I:
Fuck that man is missed. we need him back to have a complete team.
Mo'unga: 70% win rate as AB 10.
That might improve under a different coach on that basis most of the team had a low win rate under Foster.
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Mo'unga back is the last thing we need. How many years did he have to cement his spot and become a great test 10? At least one too many.
Time to move on. DMac wasn't perfect last night, but the first half I thought he played really well. Fuck, we even had an exit from our 22 into their half, seems like that hasn't happened since DC laced them up.
Put DMac outside A Smith and I'd suggest he would look significantly better - the drop in the 2nd half looked to me to be much more due to the quality of ball he was getting than anything else. The aimless kicking resurfaced, but that was a feature of the BB/RM years also so I'm not pinning that on him.
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LOL new season and some things never change. Tim wanking on about how amazeballs papali’i is and how everyone else is useless. Don’t change Tim!
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@KiwiMurph said in All Blacks vs England I:
@No-Quarter we badly need Roigard back to 100%
Fucking Ah
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@chimoaus said in All Blacks vs England I:
@Tim said in All Blacks vs England I:
@chucknz waaaaa
Robertson is inexperienced at international level and it showed. They had a shit game plan and wer almost beaten.
Undefeated at international level. 😉
You might want to look up Brasil's results while he was there.
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@Billy-Tell said in All Blacks vs England I:
Prefer a test like that than a stroll in the park vs Tonga!
Aside from either side of halftime when we played dumb rugby that was pretty good. England played bloody well but so did we generally. Subs were made at the right time. For a first game in charge against a team that came to win I’ll take that.
I was very happy about the subbing, previous era was far too often rigid, late, and conservative IMO.
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@sparky said in All Blacks vs England I:
A Bok-style one point win.
I could get used to those. 😎
spoken like a professional cardiologist in private practice...
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I thought Perofeta had a really good game. Composed, dangerous with pill in hand and excellent decison-making.
I've made no secret of the fact that I don't see Ioane as a 13. I will concede he did well at the RWC last year but last night seemed to involve himself more in a way that didn't suit his skillset, i.e. distribution, linking. I'd obviously prefer him at wing but if he's going to be 13 then he has to stay in his lane so to speak.
Oh yes, and Jordie is a 12. And a pretty fůcking good one.
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One thing I would add, and maybe this is because the ref was Georgian, but that test actually flowed. They didn't review every single farking tackle or movement. I felt I actually watched a game of rugby and not the stop-start-review trash from recent years.
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All Blacks v England: Player ratings from a tense test match
Assessing the best – and worst – of the performances in a tough opening test.
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@Billy-Tell said in All Blacks vs England I:
LOL new season and some things never change. Tim wanking on about how amazeballs papali’i is and how everyone else is useless. Don’t change Tim!
It must be so hard for Papalii to lift himself when he’s surrounded by such mediocrity
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@MadGav said in All Blacks vs England I:
@Victor-Meldrew if Dmac had nailed his we would have won by more
If, but, maybe
Why is this forum so negative
England are a GOOD TEAMThe negativity is always there in the match threads and they're often entertaining when you read them the next day already knowing the outcome. That's often part of the fun of this place. We all say something silly in the heat of the moment in a match thread.
But, this may have been the worst one ever, it seemed to just be filled with posters complaining about players or hyping players based on franchise preference.
If we run the AI for this thread it will likely say every player was both shit and awesome.
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Some interesting ratings as is often the case. I think Reece deserved a 9 and not quite sure how Vaa’i got 7 and Aumua only 6 ?
Overall one would think the ABs won by more than a solitary point.
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I didn't notice much comment on Jacobson- he had 3 tackles in 19 minutes? But I didn't see much of him after the first 2 or 3 minutes of his cameo..
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@MN5 said in All Blacks vs England I:
Some interesting ratings as is often the case. I think Reece deserved a 9 and not quite sure how Vaa’i got 7 and Aumua only 6 ?
Overall one would think the ABs won by more than a solitary point.
I'm not a Canes supporter but I thought the team lifted its urgency when he (Aumua) came on. But Vaa'i was more dynamic than I was expecting.
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@Rancid-Schnitzel said in All Blacks vs England I:
One thing I would add, and maybe this is because the ref was Georgian, but that test actually flowed. They didn't review every single farking tackle or movement. I felt I actually watched a game of rugby and not the stop-start-review trash from recent years.
Not sure how much was him and how much was the players but was nice after a test to be not talking about cards as well
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@SBW1 said in All Blacks vs England I:
All Blacks v England: Player ratings from a tense test match
Assessing the best – and worst – of the performances in a tough opening test.
Fucking laughable rankings. Ardie rated higher than Jordie? Marcus Smith a better game than Furbank? What game did this fuckwit Winston Aldworth watch?
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@Tim said in All Blacks vs England I:
@Old-Samurai-Jack it seemed like a lot of stuff we complain about, team going wide, before forcing oppostion back.
Scrum was good, and there were no cards.
Nick Berry is ref next week.
I’m willing to put a Charles Barkley guaranteeee on there being a card with ol mate on the whistle. He’s like a dealer at the casino.
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@nostrildamus said in All Blacks vs England I:
I think we all agree the loose trio is still looking unsettled. But during the last era and possibly this one we are still undecided on the best trio.
Who is we?
It was very clear in the 18 months leading up to the RWC that in the minds of the selectors our top trio was Frizell, Cane and Savea.
Two of those currently unavailable so back to the drawing board.
