All Blacks vs Wales
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<p>In the shame column I had Holah > McCaw until probably mid way through the 2003 Super season and even then...</p>
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<p>No shame in that - Holah was sensational. Just unfortunate to be playing behind the GOAT.</p> -
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<p>No shame in that - Holah was sensational. Just unfortunate to be playing behind the GOAT.</p>
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<p>Two guys you really have to feel sorry for. Nick Evans and Marty Holah. Arguably the second best players in the world in their positions but...</p> -
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<p>Two guys you really have to feel sorry for. Nick Evans and Marty Holah. Arguably the second best players in the world in their positions but...</p>
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<p>Post 2007 WC I had the AB backline penciled in as Evans at 10, Carter 12, Toeava 13.</p> -
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<p>You fluffybunnys gpt nothing ... I'm th exact opposite of youse fullas ...<br><br>
Saw this tall skinny ungainly bloke playing fullback for the Brumbies. Laughed at him. Useless ... Name was Larkin, or Larkman , or Markham or something ...</p>
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<p>And I reckoned Macqueen was mad shifting him from full back to first five because it would never work.</p> -
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<p>You fluffybunnys gpt nothing ... I'm th exact opposite of youse fullas ...<br><br>
Saw this tall skinny ungainly bloke playing fullback for the Brumbies. Laughed at him. Useless ... Name was Larkin, or Larkman , or Markham or something ...</p>
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<p>I remember that - baby faced kid, would never front at test level.</p>
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<p>If only we knew how tough and skilled he was eh</p> -
Still get a long way in the world with who you know
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<p>No shame in that - Holah was sensational. Just unfortunate to be playing behind the GOAT.</p>
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<p>Agreed. Holah was sensational. Would have been in the top 4-5 in the world for a couple of years behind McCaw, George Smith, Schalk Burger and maybe Olivier Magne (perhaps Magne peaked in the late 90s but was still good at the 2003 RWC). Holah was particularly outstanding on the 2002 EOYT when the ABs left McCaw and 20 other players at home - even that fuckface Stephen Jones had to admit he was the form 7 of the 2002 "Autumn Internationals". Certainly Holah was superior to the likes of Phil Waugh and Neil Back.</p>
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<p>Some idiot here referred to Matt Todd as the new Marty Holah. That's just plain disrespectful. Holah got 36 caps whereas Todd has 3-4. Todd should get the chance at a few more through injury before he's done in NZ rugby. </p> -
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No shame in that - Holah was sensational. Just unfortunate to be playing behind the GOAT.</p></blockquote>
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No shame in rating Holah. Shame in thinking he would end up better than McCaw. Shame in thinking that neither was a transcendent talent and neither would be much better than Kronfeld and Holah had the best chance to get there. -
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<p>This is a bit interesting from the first test</p>
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<p>Is that John Key's spawn meeting the All Black captain straight after a test?</p>
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<p>Did he take to Twitter to express his outrage that the AB captain touched his "do" and then laughed about it ?</p>
