RWC Week 2: All Blacks v Namibia
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@Victor-Meldrew said in RWC Week 2: All Blacks v Namibia:
@MiketheSnow said in RWC Week 2: All Blacks v Namibia:
Discarded / surplus to requirements for a lot of those players tbf
Fifita had multiple chances.
What playing at lock? Super rugby forces potential test No 6s to play lock where they are then told they are too small and not good enough for test rugby. Running bigger packs off their feet with hybrid 7s playing in every loose forward position works in Super rugby but not in test rugby.
So instead of Fifitta, Luatua, Naitoa Ah Kuoi, Dominic Gardiner, or Cameron Suafoa being developed as test 6s they are picked as Super rugby locks and don't develop as looseforwards miss the big All Black salaries and eventually take the bigger money on offer overseas.
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@DaGrubster said in RWC Week 2: All Blacks v Namibia:
Maybe this squad isn’t drilled hard enough and it shows through the lack of discipline and lack of consistency?
We can speculate all we like but the fact is this side is capable of playing great rugby but it feels as though they will die wondering in this World cup
I'm hoping we're treating the build-up like Super rugby - you don't want to be peaking three weeks out from the play-offs - building slowly AND doing enough to win.
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@tubbyj said in RWC Week 2: All Blacks v Namibia:
@Victor-Meldrew said in RWC Week 2: All Blacks v Namibia:
@MiketheSnow said in RWC Week 2: All Blacks v Namibia:
Discarded / surplus to requirements for a lot of those players tbf
Fifita had multiple chances.
What playing at lock? Super rugby forces potential test No 6s to play lock where they are then told they are too small and not good enough for test rugby. Running bigger packs off their feet with hybrid 7s playing in every loose forward position works in Super rugby but not in test rugby.
So instead of Fifitta, Luatua, Naitoa Ah Kuoi, Dominic Gardiner, or Cameron Suafoa being developed as test 6s they are picked as Super rugby locks and don't develop as looseforwards miss the big All Black salaries and eventually take the bigger money on offer overseas.
Fifita had enough freak athleticism that I wished they had persisted with him more.
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@MN5 said in RWC Week 2: All Blacks v Namibia:
@tubbyj said in RWC Week 2: All Blacks v Namibia:
@Victor-Meldrew said in RWC Week 2: All Blacks v Namibia:
@MiketheSnow said in RWC Week 2: All Blacks v Namibia:
Discarded / surplus to requirements for a lot of those players tbf
Fifita had multiple chances.
What playing at lock? Super rugby forces potential test No 6s to play lock where they are then told they are too small and not good enough for test rugby. Running bigger packs off their feet with hybrid 7s playing in every loose forward position works in Super rugby but not in test rugby.
So instead of Fifitta, Luatua, Naitoa Ah Kuoi, Dominic Gardiner, or Cameron Suafoa being developed as test 6s they are picked as Super rugby locks and don't develop as looseforwards miss the big All Black salaries and eventually take the bigger money on offer overseas.
Fifita had enough freak athleticism that I wished they had persisted with him more.
I missed this game where he played 8, greedy but athletic bugger with concentration problems but opportunistic speed, IMO; I always thought with a bit more muscle and those long arms he'd make an interesting 8.
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@tubbyj yeah it seems we keep picking guys for how we think the game should be played, high pace without a big bruiser defending the blind and big ball carrier at 8, instead we have several players who aren't quite a 6, or a 7 or an 8, but we throw them together and the this means we rely heavily on our tight 5, and we have played our best ball carrying fatty out of form, we get little from our props, putting a massive load on BR, SW and SB.
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@nostrildamus said in RWC Week 2: All Blacks v Namibia:
@MN5 said in RWC Week 2: All Blacks v Namibia:
@tubbyj said in RWC Week 2: All Blacks v Namibia:
@Victor-Meldrew said in RWC Week 2: All Blacks v Namibia:
@MiketheSnow said in RWC Week 2: All Blacks v Namibia:
Discarded / surplus to requirements for a lot of those players tbf
Fifita had multiple chances.
What playing at lock? Super rugby forces potential test No 6s to play lock where they are then told they are too small and not good enough for test rugby. Running bigger packs off their feet with hybrid 7s playing in every loose forward position works in Super rugby but not in test rugby.
So instead of Fifitta, Luatua, Naitoa Ah Kuoi, Dominic Gardiner, or Cameron Suafoa being developed as test 6s they are picked as Super rugby locks and don't develop as looseforwards miss the big All Black salaries and eventually take the bigger money on offer overseas.
Fifita had enough freak athleticism that I wished they had persisted with him more.
I missed this game where he played 8, greedy but athletic bugger with concentration problems but opportunistic speed, IMO; I always thought with a bit more muscle and those long arms he'd make an interesting 8.
He looks to have more than enough, that was a very good try he got.
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@Stargazer roll them dice 🎲
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@tubbyj said in RWC Week 2: All Blacks v Namibia:
@Victor-Meldrew said in RWC Week 2: All Blacks v Namibia:
@MiketheSnow said in RWC Week 2: All Blacks v Namibia:
Discarded / surplus to requirements for a lot of those players tbf
Fifita had multiple chances.
Running bigger packs off their feet with hybrid 7s playing in every loose forward position works in Super rugby but not in test rugby.
The Jason Holland philosophy... didn't work against teams not named Crusaders, Chiefs, Blues, Brumbies. So not entirely successful at Super Rugby level is it? Unless you are playing the comparatively unfit & poorly conditioned Australian teams.
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@Machpants said in RWC Week 2: All Blacks v Namibia:
@akan004 said in RWC Week 2: All Blacks v Namibia:
@ploughboy said in RWC Week 2: All Blacks v Namibia:
@booboo said in RWC Week 2: All Blacks v Namibia:
Unpopular opinion:
Dane Coles is our best hooker right now. Discuss.
i was thinking during the game that was a impressive shift. if only we had that depth in all postions
I saw this on twitter. It's scary when you see all the names listed down. We have so much top class talent playing overseas.
Pointless tweet
Add to those:
Luteru Tolai, Brian Alainu’uese, Taleni Seu, So’otala Fa’aso’o, Samuel Slade, Sa Jordan Taufua, Chris Vui, Ereatara Enari, Jonathan Taumateine, Christian Leali’ifano, D’angelo Leuila, Duncan Paia’aua, Neria Fomai, Nigel Ah Wong, Danny Toala, Paula Ngauamo, Samiuela Moli, Tau Koloamatangi, Joe Apikotoa, Sam Lousi, Augustine Pulu, Manu Paea, William Havili, Otumaka Mausia, Pita Ahki, Fini Inisi, Kyren Taumoefolau, Anzelo Tuitavuki, Craig Millar, Michael Leitch, Lomano Lemeki, Hame Faiva, Toa Halafihi, Hinckley Vaovasa, Jason Tomane, Gareth Anscombe, Jordan Uelese, Will Skelton, Lalakai Foketi, Zuriel Togiatama, Te Ahiwaru Cirikidaveta, Isoa Nasilasila, and sorta Caleb Muntz.NZ have ALWAYS provided the most players at every RWC, by a factor of 3. No change
You’ve made most of those names up
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@taniwharugby said in RWC Week 2: All Blacks v Namibia:
This is the most awful part of the game...there is obstruction at every bloody maul
Check out Kitshoff dragging Scots tackler over line when PSDT 'scored'.
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@Billy-Tell said in RWC Week 2: All Blacks v Namibia:
Opposition is not very good. But Roigard surely has to be the bench 9. Just takes the right options every time.
IMPACT
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So just saw the game. What did we get out of it? We still do stupid, dumb, ridiculous and out and out mental shit in our own 22. Cam Roigard is pushing for the 9 jersey? We've now lost another player. Also, do the refs hate the ABs? It's like there's an APB out on them. I know it's only Namibia, but did the ABs do anything to show they will be a threat in the QF?
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@voodoo said in RWC Week 2: All Blacks v Namibia:
@Machpants said in RWC Week 2: All Blacks v Namibia:
@akan004 said in RWC Week 2: All Blacks v Namibia:
@ploughboy said in RWC Week 2: All Blacks v Namibia:
@booboo said in RWC Week 2: All Blacks v Namibia:
Unpopular opinion:
Dane Coles is our best hooker right now. Discuss.
i was thinking during the game that was a impressive shift. if only we had that depth in all postions
I saw this on twitter. It's scary when you see all the names listed down. We have so much top class talent playing overseas.
Pointless tweet
Add to those:
Luteru Tolai, Brian Alainu’uese, Taleni Seu, So’otala Fa’aso’o, Samuel Slade, Sa Jordan Taufua, Chris Vui, Ereatara Enari, Jonathan Taumateine, Christian Leali’ifano, D’angelo Leuila, Duncan Paia’aua, Neria Fomai, Nigel Ah Wong, Danny Toala, Paula Ngauamo, Samiuela Moli, Tau Koloamatangi, Joe Apikotoa, Sam Lousi, Augustine Pulu, Manu Paea, William Havili, Otumaka Mausia, Pita Ahki, Fini Inisi, Kyren Taumoefolau, Anzelo Tuitavuki, Craig Millar, Michael Leitch, Lomano Lemeki, Hame Faiva, Toa Halafihi, Hinckley Vaovasa, Jason Tomane, Gareth Anscombe, Jordan Uelese, Will Skelton, Lalakai Foketi, Zuriel Togiatama, Te Ahiwaru Cirikidaveta, Isoa Nasilasila, and sorta Caleb Muntz.NZ have ALWAYS provided the most players at every RWC, by a factor of 3. No change
You’ve made most of those names up
I don't have that much imagination
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@Machpants said in RWC Week 2: All Blacks v Namibia:
@voodoo said in RWC Week 2: All Blacks v Namibia:
@Machpants said in RWC Week 2: All Blacks v Namibia:
@akan004 said in RWC Week 2: All Blacks v Namibia:
@ploughboy said in RWC Week 2: All Blacks v Namibia:
@booboo said in RWC Week 2: All Blacks v Namibia:
Unpopular opinion:
Dane Coles is our best hooker right now. Discuss.
i was thinking during the game that was a impressive shift. if only we had that depth in all postions
I saw this on twitter. It's scary when you see all the names listed down. We have so much top class talent playing overseas.
Pointless tweet
Add to those:
Luteru Tolai, Brian Alainu’uese, Taleni Seu, So’otala Fa’aso’o, Samuel Slade, Sa Jordan Taufua, Chris Vui, Ereatara Enari, Jonathan Taumateine, Christian Leali’ifano, D’angelo Leuila, Duncan Paia’aua, Neria Fomai, Nigel Ah Wong, Danny Toala, Paula Ngauamo, Samiuela Moli, Tau Koloamatangi, Joe Apikotoa, Sam Lousi, Augustine Pulu, Manu Paea, William Havili, Otumaka Mausia, Pita Ahki, Fini Inisi, Kyren Taumoefolau, Anzelo Tuitavuki, Craig Millar, Michael Leitch, Lomano Lemeki, Hame Faiva, Toa Halafihi, Hinckley Vaovasa, Jason Tomane, Gareth Anscombe, Jordan Uelese, Will Skelton, Lalakai Foketi, Zuriel Togiatama, Te Ahiwaru Cirikidaveta, Isoa Nasilasila, and sorta Caleb Muntz.NZ have ALWAYS provided the most players at every RWC, by a factor of 3. No change
You’ve made most of those names up
I don't have that much imagination
Yeah, a quick glance and I know the majority of those names. Why only sorta Caleb Muntz? He's Maori. Oh, cos he's injured?
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@Nepia said in RWC Week 2: All Blacks v Namibia:
@Machpants said in RWC Week 2: All Blacks v Namibia:
@voodoo said in RWC Week 2: All Blacks v Namibia:
@Machpants said in RWC Week 2: All Blacks v Namibia:
@akan004 said in RWC Week 2: All Blacks v Namibia:
@ploughboy said in RWC Week 2: All Blacks v Namibia:
@booboo said in RWC Week 2: All Blacks v Namibia:
Unpopular opinion:
Dane Coles is our best hooker right now. Discuss.
i was thinking during the game that was a impressive shift. if only we had that depth in all postions
I saw this on twitter. It's scary when you see all the names listed down. We have so much top class talent playing overseas.
Pointless tweet
Add to those:
Luteru Tolai, Brian Alainu’uese, Taleni Seu, So’otala Fa’aso’o, Samuel Slade, Sa Jordan Taufua, Chris Vui, Ereatara Enari, Jonathan Taumateine, Christian Leali’ifano, D’angelo Leuila, Duncan Paia’aua, Neria Fomai, Nigel Ah Wong, Danny Toala, Paula Ngauamo, Samiuela Moli, Tau Koloamatangi, Joe Apikotoa, Sam Lousi, Augustine Pulu, Manu Paea, William Havili, Otumaka Mausia, Pita Ahki, Fini Inisi, Kyren Taumoefolau, Anzelo Tuitavuki, Craig Millar, Michael Leitch, Lomano Lemeki, Hame Faiva, Toa Halafihi, Hinckley Vaovasa, Jason Tomane, Gareth Anscombe, Jordan Uelese, Will Skelton, Lalakai Foketi, Zuriel Togiatama, Te Ahiwaru Cirikidaveta, Isoa Nasilasila, and sorta Caleb Muntz.NZ have ALWAYS provided the most players at every RWC, by a factor of 3. No change
You’ve made most of those names up
I don't have that much imagination
Yeah, a quick glance and I know the majority of those names. Why only sorta Caleb Muntz? He's Maori. Oh, cos he's injured?
Yeah he was listed but sadly never made it to the cup
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@reprobate said in RWC Week 2: All Blacks v Namibia:
surely the EDG defence should just be a video of that french fella's yellow card?
Or a video of the Fijian player yesterday when Australia were attacking which the TMO said there was nothing to see there.
