All Blacks vs Springboks - Twickenham
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@Billy-Tell Most heart warming post on The Fern in the last 2 years.👍💯🏉
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What was the other test match coles started this year and played well ?
First up argies ?
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@Billy-Tell said in All Blacks vs Springboks - Twickenham:
I don’t get the point of finau getting a run. Hes not in the squad. Need to know that Jacobsen can cover 6.
agree, Foster said Finau was likely at squad naming ..perhaps injury status of others changed since then, but Im happy if full squad players available to use first
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@Windows97 said in All Blacks vs Springboks - Twickenham:
That's been his only start innit?
Yeah he went well , but it was only the argies ,
Was a guy on the radio yesterday morning who picked the side 100 percent, from coles to the 6-2 split . More than likely had it leaked to him .
And he was talking like it was all guess work on his behalf, and said , I reckon they might be looking for a bit more mongrel and go for coles in this one against the boks .
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@Steve said in All Blacks vs Springboks - Twickenham:
@pakman said in All Blacks vs Springboks - Twickenham:
@Steve said in All Blacks vs Springboks - Twickenham:
@pakman said in All Blacks vs Springboks - Twickenham:
@Steve said in All Blacks vs Springboks - Twickenham:
@pakman said in All Blacks vs Springboks - Twickenham:
@Steve said in All Blacks vs Springboks - Twickenham:
Don't like ALB as the sole back replacement.
Doesn't exactly scream impact to me.
He did not have impact as a starter in 2019!
Prefer Havili?
No not him either.
Someone with some wheels.
Clarke????
Id be thinking along the lines of DMAC, Leicester, Narawa, (Stevenson if selected). Im not a Clarke fan to be honest, but he'd be the next cab off my rank I suppose.
Tricky thing is covering a midfield injury.
I suppose the 6/2 split is more the issue there.
I don't mind ALB on the bench per se, but when ALB is ALL that's on the bench, then I see no impact.
Imagine being down in the second half and needing to turn things round and ALB is the answer.
Not for me.
ALB being on the bench allows us to play the 6/2 split, which means we can have more impact from the forwards. In the modern game, it's generally the bench forwards that come on and have the biggest impact, it's pretty difficult for a back to come on and start tearing things up if it's an attritional contest. And it's almost always attritional against the top sides these days.
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@Rancid-Schnitzel said in All Blacks vs Springboks - Twickenham:
Is DMac injured? It's a bit of an odd bench but I guess this is an odd game. Am a LJ fan so hope he puts in a good shift.
I guessing the slightly odd bench mix is so they can give Lord a bit of time for in case? ie extra forward.
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@reprobate said in All Blacks vs Springboks - Twickenham:
@booboo Dane Coles in vs Samisoni for best XV? I don't think so.
To clarify... starting XV, in numbers 1-15, given they want ST finishing.
The guys on the bench don't have to be the second best guys nowadays.
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@booboo But I think Samisoni should be starting, hence I don't think it is the best XV. If it's defined as what they see as the best XV then there's not really a conversation to have about any of it is there?
He's the exact guy to start. Huge, physical, one of the few guys we have who can create momentum against a big fresh starting forward pack - which is something we're even shorter of with Frizzel out. Coles and Taylor are both quicker, more mobile, better suited to finish the game. -
Best way to blunt our pack is to shift it around by giving the ball heaps of air. Especially if your kick chase is good and we’re as bad under the ball as we were in Albany.
In other words, same blueprint as the first 20 in Albany. And the opposite of the first 20 of the second half when you got far more direct.
imagine the ABs are also trying to nullify the impact of the closing bok front row at scrum time.
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@Steve said in All Blacks vs Springboks - Twickenham:
@pakman said in All Blacks vs Springboks - Twickenham:
@Steve said in All Blacks vs Springboks - Twickenham:
@pakman said in All Blacks vs Springboks - Twickenham:
@Steve said in All Blacks vs Springboks - Twickenham:
Don't like ALB as the sole back replacement.
Doesn't exactly scream impact to me.
He did not have impact as a starter in 2019!
Prefer Havili?
No not him either.
Someone with some wheels.
Clarke????
Id be thinking along the lines of DMAC, Leicester, Narawa, (Stevenson if selected). Im not a Clarke fan to be honest, but he'd be the next cab off my rank I suppose.
The more we read his name in AB threads, the more he is taking on Ngatai status…
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@KiwiMurph said in All Blacks vs Springboks - Twickenham:
Excited to see Moodie at 13.
Just noticed that Marx is starting. I thought he had developed into a second half specialist?
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@ACT-Crusader said in All Blacks vs Springboks - Twickenham:
@KiwiMurph said in All Blacks vs Springboks - Twickenham:
Excited to see Moodie at 13.
Just noticed that Marx is starting. I thought he had developed into a second half specialist?
He's the Samisoni Taukei'aho of the Bokke ... is he better starting or finishing ...
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@Smuts said in All Blacks vs Springboks - Twickenham:
Best way to blunt our pack is to shift it around by giving the ball heaps of air. Especially if your kick chase is good and we’re as bad under the ball as we were in Albany.
In other words, same blueprint as the first 20 in Albany.
Pendatic alert. Mt Smart was the venue of the earlier game this year. Albany was 2017.
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Foster said Codie Taylor has a minor hamstring niggle.
In reference to Roigard, he also said his inclusion is simply to give him more game time and that he thought Christie did well in Dunedin. But then said the Bok game is "another chance for us to look at another option."
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@reprobate said in All Blacks vs Springboks - Twickenham:
I think Samisoni should be starting
I get what you're saying, but at what stage are you dragging him? And putting the inferior player on?
Around the time they (apart from this week) inflict Malcolm Marx on us?
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@KiwiMurph said in All Blacks vs Springboks - Twickenham:
@Smuts said in All Blacks vs Springboks - Twickenham:
Best way to blunt our pack is to shift it around by giving the ball heaps of air. Especially if your kick chase is good and we’re as bad under the ball as we were in Albany.
In other words, same blueprint as the first 20 in Albany.
Pendatic alert. Mt Smart was the venue of the earlier game this year. Albany was 2017.
Not pedantic at all. I mt bloody stupidly assumed mt smart was just the name of the stadium in Albany.
