All Blacks vs Springboks - Twickenham
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@Smuts said in All Blacks vs Springboks - Twickenham:
Nothing like a bok AB game. I really, really want the boks to be looking for revenge for fucking Albany. And I especially want Etzebeth to be out to coldly, cynically take his pound of flesh closest to the heart.
Long 26 hours ahead.
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@Dan54 said in All Blacks vs Springboks - Twickenham:
I thought they would give Finau a run, but don't know what's happened since he got to London, and I wondering if there an injury that perhaps whoever it is Lord will come in? Maybe Rettalick slower recovering than expected?
As @Billy-Tell says they need to prepare for France opening game. As it stands right now (touching wood no more injuries) Jacobson is a real contender for 6 shirt vs France - Finau is not.
Both Lord and Vaai on the bench allows them the flexibility of subbing off both of their starting locks - which is useful given they have only 3 fit locks for the French game.
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So the criticisms seem to be:
- we picked a bloke who is in the main squad over a bloke who is not (on the bench)
- we picked a bloke who is not in the main squad but not a bloke who is not in the main squad
- we've picked a 6-2 bench against a team that has picked a 6-2 bench
- we didn't pick a specilaist winger on the bench
About right?
On the plus side:
- Best available XV (assuming Taylor is injured)
- chance to use either of our lock/6 options for some time at 6
- Lord gets game time in the event of injury to squad locks necessitating replacment during tournament
- Best available forward bench plus 1
- Roigard gets game time
Other observations:
- ALB covers both midfield positions
- 3 of the non-winger starting backs have started tests on the wing
Anything else?
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Is DMac injured? It's a bit of an odd bench but I guess this is an odd game. Am a LJ fan so hope he puts in a good shift.
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@Billy-Tell Most heart warming post on The Fern in the last 2 years.👍💯🏉
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What was the other test match coles started this year and played well ?
First up argies ?
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@Billy-Tell said in All Blacks vs Springboks - Twickenham:
I don’t get the point of finau getting a run. Hes not in the squad. Need to know that Jacobsen can cover 6.
agree, Foster said Finau was likely at squad naming ..perhaps injury status of others changed since then, but Im happy if full squad players available to use first
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@Windows97 said in All Blacks vs Springboks - Twickenham:
That's been his only start innit?
Yeah he went well , but it was only the argies ,
Was a guy on the radio yesterday morning who picked the side 100 percent, from coles to the 6-2 split . More than likely had it leaked to him .
And he was talking like it was all guess work on his behalf, and said , I reckon they might be looking for a bit more mongrel and go for coles in this one against the boks .
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@Steve said in All Blacks vs Springboks - Twickenham:
@pakman said in All Blacks vs Springboks - Twickenham:
@Steve said in All Blacks vs Springboks - Twickenham:
@pakman said in All Blacks vs Springboks - Twickenham:
@Steve said in All Blacks vs Springboks - Twickenham:
@pakman said in All Blacks vs Springboks - Twickenham:
@Steve said in All Blacks vs Springboks - Twickenham:
Don't like ALB as the sole back replacement.
Doesn't exactly scream impact to me.
He did not have impact as a starter in 2019!
Prefer Havili?
No not him either.
Someone with some wheels.
Clarke????
Id be thinking along the lines of DMAC, Leicester, Narawa, (Stevenson if selected). Im not a Clarke fan to be honest, but he'd be the next cab off my rank I suppose.
Tricky thing is covering a midfield injury.
I suppose the 6/2 split is more the issue there.
I don't mind ALB on the bench per se, but when ALB is ALL that's on the bench, then I see no impact.
Imagine being down in the second half and needing to turn things round and ALB is the answer.
Not for me.
ALB being on the bench allows us to play the 6/2 split, which means we can have more impact from the forwards. In the modern game, it's generally the bench forwards that come on and have the biggest impact, it's pretty difficult for a back to come on and start tearing things up if it's an attritional contest. And it's almost always attritional against the top sides these days.
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@Rancid-Schnitzel said in All Blacks vs Springboks - Twickenham:
Is DMac injured? It's a bit of an odd bench but I guess this is an odd game. Am a LJ fan so hope he puts in a good shift.
I guessing the slightly odd bench mix is so they can give Lord a bit of time for in case? ie extra forward.
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@reprobate said in All Blacks vs Springboks - Twickenham:
@booboo Dane Coles in vs Samisoni for best XV? I don't think so.
To clarify... starting XV, in numbers 1-15, given they want ST finishing.
The guys on the bench don't have to be the second best guys nowadays.
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@booboo But I think Samisoni should be starting, hence I don't think it is the best XV. If it's defined as what they see as the best XV then there's not really a conversation to have about any of it is there?
He's the exact guy to start. Huge, physical, one of the few guys we have who can create momentum against a big fresh starting forward pack - which is something we're even shorter of with Frizzel out. Coles and Taylor are both quicker, more mobile, better suited to finish the game. -
Best way to blunt our pack is to shift it around by giving the ball heaps of air. Especially if your kick chase is good and we’re as bad under the ball as we were in Albany.
In other words, same blueprint as the first 20 in Albany. And the opposite of the first 20 of the second half when you got far more direct.
imagine the ABs are also trying to nullify the impact of the closing bok front row at scrum time.
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@Steve said in All Blacks vs Springboks - Twickenham:
@pakman said in All Blacks vs Springboks - Twickenham:
@Steve said in All Blacks vs Springboks - Twickenham:
@pakman said in All Blacks vs Springboks - Twickenham:
@Steve said in All Blacks vs Springboks - Twickenham:
Don't like ALB as the sole back replacement.
Doesn't exactly scream impact to me.
He did not have impact as a starter in 2019!
Prefer Havili?
No not him either.
Someone with some wheels.
Clarke????
Id be thinking along the lines of DMAC, Leicester, Narawa, (Stevenson if selected). Im not a Clarke fan to be honest, but he'd be the next cab off my rank I suppose.
The more we read his name in AB threads, the more he is taking on Ngatai status…
