All Blacks vs Springboks - Twickenham
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@Joans-Town-Jones said in All Blacks vs Springboks - Twickenham:
@kiwiinmelb difference is, back then they never got flogged by 30 points. And had a series of record losses prior.
Yeah I get all that, none of us have been happy with all the records that have tumbled and the inconsistencies
But this team and their chances for doing well at the cup itself, not so sure that game means that much.
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@kiwiinmelb said in All Blacks vs Springboks - Twickenham:
@Joans-Town-Jones said in All Blacks vs Springboks - Twickenham:
@kiwiinmelb difference is, back then they never got flogged by 30 points. And had a series of record losses prior.
Yeah I get all that, none of us have been happy with all the records that have tumbled and the inconsistencies
But this team and their chances for doing well at the cup itself, not so sure that game means that much.
I think it does, it shows they crumble under pressure. If they get away to a great start, then they're good. Any real pressure and they're fucked. And they will get real pressure on at least one knock out game of three and will crumble and lose. Even the GOATs of '15 had that in the semi, and they turned the pressure around. '11 had the self induced pressure of the final. Funnily enough the B team pulled through under pressure vs Oz, but that is only Oz
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@taniwharugby said in All Blacks vs Springboks - Twickenham:
@mikedogz and the ref running his hands over the studs to check for sharp edges.
While Lomax's one is awful and seems nasty, it also would seem rather rare?
Yep I remember going down on my knees and having the boots checked I think.
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@kiwiinmelb furry muff. I made comment before the test, would a loss to the ABs mean more psychologically than it would to the Springboks. I still believe it does. South Africa can get up for these one of games. This ABs side, I'm 70% sure they can't. Certainly not for 3 big ones.
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@Machpants it was the A team that come on to fix the shit. Had Foster kept the same side save for blokes like SS and LF, for the Wobs then this test, I'm positive the result would have been different. May not have won, but I'm certain it wouldn't have a been a 35 point flogging.
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@Machpants a bit of luck early plays it's part too, on another day the early scrum penalty goes the other way...
As @mariner4life said above, this game was the perfect storm of everything going wrong.
Sure there are issues and we will need alot of luck and good days for us to make the final, and from there, it comes down to who is on, you ride the crest of a wave until you can't.
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@mariner4life it may not be blades as such, could be the type - sharpness etc. It’s interesting technical thing. Surprised their hasn’t been a rugby media piece on this but then again, why would you provide information and analysis when you can do nothing.
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@chimoaus said in All Blacks vs Springboks - Twickenham:
@taniwharugby said in All Blacks vs Springboks - Twickenham:
@mikedogz and the ref running his hands over the studs to check for sharp edges.
While Lomax's one is awful and seems nasty, it also would seem rather rare?
Yep I remember going down on my knees and having the boots checked I think.
We weren't allowed plastic studs in 90's early 00's in dunedin school/club rugby, had to at least have a metal tip. I was surprised when i got back into club rugby and checking studs wasn't a thing
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@Joans-Town-Jones said in All Blacks vs Springboks - Twickenham:
@kiwiinmelb furry muff. I made comment before the test, would a loss to the ABs mean more psychologically than it would to the Springboks. I still believe it does. South Africa can get up for these one of games. This ABs side, I'm 70% sure they can't. Certainly not for 3 big ones.
Yeah not sure , last 4 games are 2-2 , good performance, bad performance seems to be the trend
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@Kiwiwomble said in All Blacks vs Springboks - Twickenham:
@chimoaus said in All Blacks vs Springboks - Twickenham:
@taniwharugby said in All Blacks vs Springboks - Twickenham:
@mikedogz and the ref running his hands over the studs to check for sharp edges.
While Lomax's one is awful and seems nasty, it also would seem rather rare?
Yep I remember going down on my knees and having the boots checked I think.
We weren't allowed plastic studs in 90's early 00's in dunedin school/club rugby, had to at least have a metal tip. I was surprised when i got back into club rugby and checking studs wasn't a thing
Yeah moulded studs were banned in Aus while I was playing around that time. Had to have screw-ins. So I was surprised to see that they were the norm when my boys started playing in around 2014.
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@kiwiinmelb which begs the question, what gives everyone so much faith we'll get passed the QF? Due another shit one vs France, good one vs Italy then out.
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@kiwiinmelb said in All Blacks vs Springboks - Twickenham:
@Joans-Town-Jones said in All Blacks vs Springboks - Twickenham:
@kiwiinmelb furry muff. I made comment before the test, would a loss to the ABs mean more psychologically than it would to the Springboks. I still believe it does. South Africa can get up for these one of games. This ABs side, I'm 70% sure they can't. Certainly not for 3 big ones.
Yeah not sure , last 4 games are 2-2 , good performance, bad performance seems to be the trend
I think the focus has been on the RWC since we sewed up the Bledisloe and the RC (which was after the Melb test). So Dunedin becomes a bit of a ho hum match. This Boks test was a money spinner.
The boys seemed pretty relaxed about it all riding their bikes around postcode Adidas in Germany…
Much of what has been said on this thread has a bit of an old school thinking to it.
As much as it is important for the fans to see the ABs win, and they know they didn’t play how they wanted, but the eyes have been on the French test for a while now.
Bring it on.
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@Joans-Town-Jones said in All Blacks vs Springboks - Twickenham:
@kiwiinmelb which begs the question, what gives everyone so much faith we'll get passed the QF? Due another shit one vs France, good one vs Italy then out.
Because quite simply were the flat track bullies of the international game, well pump everyone (bar France) by 50 points + in the pool games and then fall over ourselves as soon as we come up against a forward pack that hits us harder than what we hit them.
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@Windows97 said in All Blacks vs Springboks - Twickenham:
Because quite simply were the flat track bullies of the international game, well pump everyone (bar France) by 50 points + in the pool games and then fall over ourselves as soon as we come up against a forward pack that hits us harder than what we hit them.
oh god, we're the quintessential classic French team, without the backline!
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@nostrildamus Now that you put it like that - I have to agree 100%
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@Machpants said in All Blacks vs Springboks - Twickenham:
I drew Ireland in the work's sweepstake, I feel dirty
gross
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@Machpants said in All Blacks vs Springboks - Twickenham:
I drew Ireland in the work's sweepstake, I feel dirty
Don't worry, they won't win
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@canefan said in All Blacks vs Springboks - Twickenham:
@Machpants said in All Blacks vs Springboks - Twickenham:
I drew Ireland in the work's sweepstake, I feel dirty
Don't worry, they won't win
I've got money saying they will. And I think they will outside of my draw.
