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    @ACT-Crusader said in AB RWC Squad:

    @Mr-Fish said in AB RWC Squad:

    @ACT-Crusader

    Suspect we would have taken at least four props to the 2007 World Cup, even with only three in the match-day squad...

    No only 3

    Forwards: Rodney So'oialo, Chris Masoe, Richie McCaw (captain), Jerry Collins, Sione Lauaki, Reuben Thorne, Ali Williams, Chris Jack, Keith Robinson, Carl Hayman, Neemia Tialata, Tony Woodcock, Anton Oliver, Keven Mealamu, Andrew Hore.

    Looks like Greg Sommerville was added to the squad to make it a 30-man group.

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    Found it, Yoda was under an injury cloud and they were giving him more time to prove fitness before confirming him as the final player.

    Schwalger was the other TH that played in 07 prior to the RWC

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    Fair play to Jacobsen. He was really on the outer under foster but had fought his way back in. I think he is a better option than the likes of akira and sotutu. Does the basics well and reliably even if he is less flash.

    I agree with the above comment. A year ago we were no chance now we are a definite chance. Hardest match outside the final will be the ¼ final. Yes the opening match will be tough but it’s only to decide who wins the pool. And with the lopsided draw it probably decides if we play Ireland or SA. But would love Scotland to knock Ireland (or SA) out.

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    @sparky said in AB RWC Squad:

    Five loose forwards is utterly dumb. Even more so when you have an injured Lock.

    Even if none of them get injured , surely they will be knackered.

    The French , Irish and Springboks are big lumps. We need the back row fit and firing.

    Cane is prone to the odd niggle. He isn’t a guaranteed 80 minute man like McCaw was.

    The lack of game time given to Jacobsen is even more alarming now. He is covering 6 and 8 especially with BBBR injured.

    If Frizell goes down we are into choppy waters.

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    @ACT-Crusader Interesting, I thought I'd read it was to allow more front rowers. But apparently it's for better preparation...

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    Webber for Christie.
    Shame about Ennor would have taken him rather than David Havili if not injured.
    Nepo is well past sell by date
    Would have taken another lock rather than Caleb Clarke

    That is my take. Lets go win it

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    @mencey said in AB RWC Squad:

    Webber

    Noooooo

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    #454

    Also think Schmidt is making a difference. As I lived in Ireland during a lot of the Schmidt era, I watched virtually all of Ireland's games. His sides were always well-drilled. Yes he came up short in his 2 RWC attempts, but in the first he had really bad luck with injuries (he lost many of his best players in the final pool game vs France) and in 2019, Ireland did their choke vs a well-performed NZ side.

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    If Caleb Clark was playing like prime Jonah Lomu you’d make the concession for him.

    But he isn’t playing any better than the others currently .

    Never played better than the others in his previous body of work either.

    Only plays one position.

    I don’t see the point of his selection at all.

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    @Steve said in AB RWC Squad:

    If Caleb Clark was playing like prime Jonah Lomu you’d make the concession for him.

    But he isn’t playing any better than the others currently .

    Never played better than the others in his previous body of work either.

    Only plays one position.

    I don’t see the point of his selection at all.

    Unless it’s for pure beef against the Irish and French. Fight fire with fire.

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    @Machpants said in AB RWC Squad:

    Whereas now we have 3 locks and 5 loosies, fucking Muppet

    Don't we have 4 - Sam, BBBR (assuming he gets over his injury) , Scooter & Vai'i?

    RWC, the ideal place for excitements. Did a lot of that in the run up to the quarters in 07

    Fair point, they have spent much of the last 12 months sorting out the top 15 & 23 and haven't had much chance to tweak things around the edges.

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    @Billy-Tell said in AB RWC Squad:

    Fair play to Jacobsen. He was really on the outer under foster but had fought his way back in. I think he is a better option than the likes of akira and sotutu. Does the basics well and reliably even if he is less flash.

    I agree with the above comment. A year ago we were no chance now we are a definite chance. Hardest match outside the final will be the ¼ final. Yes the opening match will be tough but it’s only to decide who wins the pool. And with the lopsided draw it probably decides if we play Ireland or SA. But would love Scotland to knock Ireland (or SA) out.

    Yeah I'm a big fan. Has the attributes to make an impact. The kind of player we need IMHO.

    I'd tend to agree that Clark could have been left out but he's no Zac Guildford selection.

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    @Steve said in AB RWC Squad:

    @Steve said in AB RWC Squad:

    If Caleb Clark was playing like prime Jonah Lomu you’d make the concession for him.

    But he isn’t playing any better than the others currently .

    Never played better than the others in his previous body of work either.

    Only plays one position.

    I don’t see the point of his selection at all.

    Unless it’s for pure beef against the Irish and French. Fight fire with fire.

    Penaud, Lowe and Hansen don't exactly strike me as big boppers. Can't think of the other french wing.

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    @Bones said in AB RWC Squad:

    @Steve said in AB RWC Squad:

    @Steve said in AB RWC Squad:

    If Caleb Clark was playing like prime Jonah Lomu you’d make the concession for him.

    But he isn’t playing any better than the others currently .

    Never played better than the others in his previous body of work either.

    Only plays one position.

    I don’t see the point of his selection at all.

    Unless it’s for pure beef against the Irish and French. Fight fire with fire.

    Penaud, Lowe and Hansen don't exactly strike me as big boppers. Can't think of the other french wing.

    I mean for coming in off a strike move like Julian used to off Carter. Yards up the guts.

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  • ACT CrusaderA Offline
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    @sparky said in AB RWC Squad:

    @ACT-Crusader Or Hoskins Sotutu.

    I think there has been a fall from grace there and the fact that there had been a sighting of Ioane around the squad plus the precautionary requests flying around, I reckon he’s first cab off the rank.

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    replied to ACT Crusader on last edited by sparky
    #462

    @ACT-Crusader

    Something has happened with Hoskins Sotutu that clearly ‘people in the know’ know. But I haven’t got a scooby about.

    Anyway, great to see him playing NPC and I wish him well. What a talent!

    I think in terms of pure ability (obviously being an All Black is about much more than that), he and Akira are the main ‘casualties’ not to make the cut for this NZ RWC squad.

    Hopefully he can do a Ma’a Nonu and be back better than ever before for future World Cups.

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    replied to Steve on last edited by kiwiinmelb
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    @Steve said in AB RWC Squad:

    @Steve said in AB RWC Squad:

    If Caleb Clark was playing like prime Jonah Lomu you’d make the concession for him.

    But he isn’t playing any better than the others currently .

    Never played better than the others in his previous body of work either.

    Only plays one position.

    I don’t see the point of his selection at all.

    Unless it’s for pure beef against the Irish and French. Fight fire with fire.

    Only watched the game the once live but thought in the first bledisloe when he came on he was doing a lot of in close work , looking for ball close to the ruck, pick and driving with the forwards etc

    I’m guessing it’s still between him and leister to get that role

    Still feels like one too many though , even allowing for Jordan potentially needing to play some fb

    Have havilli and leister played together in midfield?
    Thinking of pool games.

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    What stands out is we had 9 locks/LF when the squad was 30 but we still have 9 when the squad is 33. Seems like an oversight not to pick one more.

    I’m curious if there are stats for injuries by position and if forwards get injured more than backs or is it an even split?

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    @Billy-Tell said in AB RWC Squad:

    Fair play to Jacobsen. He was really on the outer under foster but had fought his way back in.

    I am happy for Luke and DMac after missing the 2019 RWC for different reasons.

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    https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby-world-cup-2023/300945282/ian-foster-adds-samipeni-finau-brad-weber-for-all-blacks-rugby-world-cup-preparations

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