Future Locks after RWC???
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@game_film said in Future Locks after RWC???:
Remembered a story about Sam Darry moving to Auckland and Steve Hansen saying ‘congratulations, you’ve just signed a future all black captain’. Anyone else recall this?
Sam Darry's need to be bigger. String-bean locks don't cut it nowadays.
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@Canes4life said in Future Locks after RWC???:
Justin Sangster from Bay of Plenty, Isaia Walker-Leawere from the Hawkes Bay
Wouldn't play for the Canes would they?
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@game_film said in Future Locks after RWC???:
Remembered a story about Sam Darry moving to Auckland and Steve Hansen saying ‘congratulations, you’ve just signed a future all black captain’. Anyone else recall this?
Steve Hansen and hot takes…
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@Crazy-Horse said in Future Locks after RWC???:
@Bones said in Future Locks after RWC???:
@Crazy-Horse said in Future Locks after RWC???:
@Bovidae said in Future Locks after RWC???:
Josh Dickson would only be 28 in 2023.
I thought he was older than that. Seems like he has been around for ages.
Geez really? I only remember him for like 3 or 4 seasons.
edit: so yeah 5 years at the highlanders. Another Aussie though.
I wouldn't be surprised if my muddled brain has him confused with someone else from years ago. All the Highlander locks look the same to me.
Elliott Dixon 😁
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@KiwiMurph said in Future Locks after RWC???:
@Canes4life said in Future Locks after RWC???:
Justin Sangster from Bay of Plenty, Isaia Walker-Leawere from the Hawkes Bay
Wouldn't play for the Canes would they?
Of course, both have had great seasons provincially aswell as for the Canes. Walker-Leawere in particular brings plenty of size and mobility which is needed at international level.
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Big fan of Walker-Leawere. Just needs some game time for the Canes without the useless Blackwell
Future lock for me:
S Barrett
T Vaii
J Lord
I Walker-Leawere
S Darry -
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@Bones said in Future Locks after RWC???:
Darry's name popping up a few times now. What's with that? Anytime I've seen him, he seems to have less impact than Blackwell and is more stringbean than Lord.
He's 22 nad growing into his frame. I have no idea if he'll step up or not; not sure the love he's getting. Seems a good player, but for me way too soon to anoint him as a future AB lock. Needs to prove himself at Super level first
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@nzzp said in Future Locks after RWC???:
@Bones said in Future Locks after RWC???:
Darry's name popping up a few times now. What's with that? Anytime I've seen him, he seems to have less impact than Blackwell and is more stringbean than Lord.
He's 22 nad growing into his frame. I have no idea if he'll step up or not; not sure the love he's getting. Seems a good player, but for me way too soon to anoint him as a future AB lock. Needs to prove himself at Super level first
I think the early comments were based on potential and attitude rather than physical prowess. I guess he stood out as someone with a great work ethic and mental toughness along with some physical attributes and 'smarts'.
It might take a while to come together or it may never happen but there are times that coaches can see a 'package' forming. -
@nzzp said in Future Locks after RWC???:
@Bones said in Future Locks after RWC???:
Darry's name popping up a few times now. What's with that? Anytime I've seen him, he seems to have less impact than Blackwell and is more stringbean than Lord.
He's 22 nad growing into his frame. I have no idea if he'll step up or not; not sure the love he's getting. Seems a good player, but for me way too soon to anoint him as a future AB lock. Needs to prove himself at Super level first
For me, that applies to Fabian Holland, too. He seems a good prospect, but didn't really stand out for the NZ U20s, this year.
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It’s interesting that we all knew that our locks are getting old and tired. They can play one good game then average in the other. Yet Foster is playing the safe but perilous route, because his back is against the wall (thanks @Victor-Meldrew ), and has not attempted to blood others. We are quick to lay the blame on our rookies but the pack as a whole has been inconsistent and old, especially the locks.
Whitelock wasn’t great last test but the test against the Argies everyone’s was singing his praises. Retallick likewise. While this is not a Foster thread he is at the center of decision making and I would imagine if he was the next coach he would not no how the make changes at lock beyond what we have.
So Whitelock and Retallick to see us through to 2027.
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@broughie said in Future Locks after RWC???:
Yet Foster is playing the safe but perilous route, because his back is against the wall (thanks @Victor-Meldrew ), and has not attempted to blood others.
TBF, he's brought Vaa'i & Lord into the mix. Think Lord would have been given plenty of game time were it not for injury.
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@Victor-Meldrew Yes. But would have use them in big games or defaulted to safety? More concerned about his job than the future. In contrast across the ditch Rennie has the same predicament but you see his brain saying I have to deal with what I have and moves forward.
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@broughie said in Future Locks after RWC???:
More concerned about his job than the future.
More concerned about winning - which is his job after all.
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@Victor-Meldrew But he created the position he is in by his ineptitude as a coach. I am not sure why your continue to stick up for this guy just because he is what we have. Yes concerned about winning with this aged group because Foster was concerned more about his job. His focus should have been on blooding the next batch of players. He is in this situation of his own making.
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@Stargazer said in Future Locks after RWC???:
@nzzp said in Future Locks after RWC???:
@Bones said in Future Locks after RWC???:
Darry's name popping up a few times now. What's with that? Anytime I've seen him, he seems to have less impact than Blackwell and is more stringbean than Lord.
He's 22 nad growing into his frame. I have no idea if he'll step up or not; not sure the love he's getting. Seems a good player, but for me way too soon to anoint him as a future AB lock. Needs to prove himself at Super level first
For me, that applies to Fabian Holland, too. He seems a good prospect, but didn't really stand out for the NZ U20s, this year.
I think the difference is Holland already has a more filled out frame than Darry and is 2 years younger than Darry.
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@broughie said in Future Locks after RWC???:
@Victor-Meldrew But he created the position he is in by his ineptitude as a coach. I am not sure why your continue to stick up for this guy just because he is what we have. Yes concerned about winning with this aged group because Foster was concerned more about his job. His focus should have been on blooding the next batch of players. He is in this situation of his own making.
lol this is a laughable take
his job is to win test matches. that's it. pick the best team and win
If Vaai had been coming off the bench and providing impact then i could entertain the suggestion he gets a start. But the fact is he comes off the bench and adds fuck all. Why would any coach then pick him?
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@mariner4life said in Future Locks after RWC???:
@broughie said in Future Locks after RWC???:
@Victor-Meldrew But he created the position he is in by his ineptitude as a coach. I am not sure why your continue to stick up for this guy just because he is what we have. Yes concerned about winning with this aged group because Foster was concerned more about his job. His focus should have been on blooding the next batch of players. He is in this situation of his own making.
lol this is a laughable take
his job is to win test matches. that's it. pick the best team and win
If Vaai had been coming off the bench and providing impact then i could entertain the suggestion he gets a start. But the fact is he comes off the bench and adds fuck all. Why would any coach then pick him?
Why would any coach pick him? Because they are trying to build depth in the squad to cover for injuries. You invest in players, easing them in. Same way that we get bolters to play T20 - to see how they go, expose them to the big time, and down the line prepare them for high pressure matches.
WE just don't hvae the 'easy' games as much any more to blood players, or the strength of team to allow weaker players game time.
