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  • PaekakboyzP Offline
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    replied to Duluth on last edited by
    #47

    @Duluth with that 10, 12, 13 would you have JB at 15 and stick with the current wings? I think I'd be ok with that midfield if we had Reece in for Clarke.

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    replied to Paekakboyz on last edited by
    #48

    @Paekakboyz

    Reece in for Jordan IMO

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  • boobooB Do not disturb
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    replied to Crucial on last edited by
    #49

    @Crucial said in Bledisloe 2:

    @Bovidae said in Bledisloe 2:

    @KiwiMurph

    I think they'll favour Ennor over Fainga'anuku to provide cover at 12 and 13. It might be Reece and Ennor on the bench, with Jordan as fullback cover if BB has to go off. It's easier to slot someone on the wing than rearrange the midfield - again.

    Why make it so complicated when there is only one spot to fill?

    Upvote for the bold. But we will need to find a bench replacement too.

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  • TimT Away
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    #50

    Clarke and Jordan definitely need some polish, but they are strike weapons we will need at the WC.

    Defensive pattern and tight five depth are my biggest concerns.

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    #51

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  • CrucialC Offline
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    replied to booboo on last edited by
    #52

    @booboo said in Bledisloe 2:

    @Crucial said in Bledisloe 2:

    @Bovidae said in Bledisloe 2:

    @KiwiMurph

    I think they'll favour Ennor over Fainga'anuku to provide cover at 12 and 13. It might be Reece and Ennor on the bench, with Jordan as fullback cover if BB has to go off. It's easier to slot someone on the wing than rearrange the midfield - again.

    Why make it so complicated when there is only one spot to fill?

    Upvote for the bold. But we will need to find a bench replacement too.

    FC, BB and Reece.

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    replied to Crazy Horse on last edited by
    #53

    @Crazy-Horse said in Bledisloe 2:

    @Bones said in Bledisloe 2:

    @Crazy-Horse said in Bledisloe 2:

    @Bones said in Foster:

    @Crazy-Horse he's used to playing outside Morgan who is more like RM.

    I was more concerned at the prospect of BB being at 15 with RM at 10. That has not worked and I suspect adding JB into the playmaking mix may complicate things too much.

    Yeah I don't really see that JB would play more of a playmaking role than DH?

    Still missing my point. I have no issue with JB being at 12 no matter how he plays. My issue is with RM at 10 if BB is at 15. Those two haven't worked out how to play well together.

    No, you explicitly said adding JB into the playmaking mix may complicate things, which makes no sense when you consider the role DH plays.

    Who knows, maybe JB at 12 may be the key to unlocking the RM/BB dysfunction?

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    #54

    Has RTS lost his pace? I do wish he could've had a bit more "learnings" at centre or wing, would solve a problem or two.

    I like the idea of Perofeta to fullback if JB to 12. Swap out Jordan for Reece - at least Clarke is trying, I'm sick of seeing Jordan watching on, there was more than one kick he could have put pressure on.

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  • Crazy HorseC Offline
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    #55

    @Bones said in Bledisloe 2:

    @Crazy-Horse said in Bledisloe 2:

    @Bones said in Bledisloe 2:

    @Crazy-Horse said in Bledisloe 2:

    @Bones said in Foster:

    @Crazy-Horse he's used to playing outside Morgan who is more like RM.

    I was more concerned at the prospect of BB being at 15 with RM at 10. That has not worked and I suspect adding JB into the playmaking mix may complicate things too much.

    Yeah I don't really see that JB would play more of a playmaking role than DH?

    Still missing my point. I have no issue with JB being at 12 no matter how he plays. My issue is with RM at 10 if BB is at 15. Those two haven't worked out how to play well together.

    No, you explicitly said adding JB into the playmaking mix may complicate things, which makes no sense when you consider the role DH plays.

    Who knows, maybe JB at 12 may be the key to unlocking the RM/BB dysfunction?

    Ok, you win.

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  • BonesB Offline
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    replied to Crazy Horse on last edited by
    #56

    @Crazy-Horse said in Bledisloe 2:

    @Bones said in Bledisloe 2:

    @Crazy-Horse said in Bledisloe 2:

    @Bones said in Bledisloe 2:

    @Crazy-Horse said in Bledisloe 2:

    @Bones said in Foster:

    @Crazy-Horse he's used to playing outside Morgan who is more like RM.

    I was more concerned at the prospect of BB being at 15 with RM at 10. That has not worked and I suspect adding JB into the playmaking mix may complicate things too much.

    Yeah I don't really see that JB would play more of a playmaking role than DH?

    Still missing my point. I have no issue with JB being at 12 no matter how he plays. My issue is with RM at 10 if BB is at 15. Those two haven't worked out how to play well together.

    No, you explicitly said adding JB into the playmaking mix may complicate things, which makes no sense when you consider the role DH plays.

    Who knows, maybe JB at 12 may be the key to unlocking the RM/BB dysfunction?

    Ok, you win.

    So do the ABs.

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  • canefanC Offline
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    replied to Bones on last edited by
    #57

    @Bones said in Bledisloe 2:

    @Crazy-Horse said in Bledisloe 2:

    @Bones said in Bledisloe 2:

    @Crazy-Horse said in Bledisloe 2:

    @Bones said in Foster:

    @Crazy-Horse he's used to playing outside Morgan who is more like RM.

    I was more concerned at the prospect of BB being at 15 with RM at 10. That has not worked and I suspect adding JB into the playmaking mix may complicate things too much.

    Yeah I don't really see that JB would play more of a playmaking role than DH?

    Still missing my point. I have no issue with JB being at 12 no matter how he plays. My issue is with RM at 10 if BB is at 15. Those two haven't worked out how to play well together.

    No, you explicitly said adding JB into the playmaking mix may complicate things, which makes no sense when you consider the role DH plays.

    Who knows, maybe JB at 12 may be the key to unlocking the RM/BB dysfunction?

    I hope so. Wouldn't that be something? We either have a shit D coach or lack leadership on defence. Snake used to boss the midfield, maybe JB can do it too?

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  • No QuarterN Offline
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    wrote on last edited by No Quarter
    #58

    We should definitely persevere with Clarke, he's our only genuine power winger and he's making breaks on a regular basis which is gold at test level. His biggest work on is decision making after he's busted clear, which will come with experience.

    Jordan was better in the last game, after the match he said he'd spoken to Enoka who had stressed that he should he looking for work all game if the ball isn't coming his way. He's definitely been guilty of waiting for the play instead of going searching for it. Reece is a player that you just can't keep out of the game in that respect, so I'd be pretty happy to see him given another crack on the wing.

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  • BonesB Offline
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    replied to No Quarter on last edited by
    #59

    @No-Quarter said in Bledisloe 2:

    he's making breaks

    My only gripe here...is he? He appears to be being put into space to me. He's not really a power winger, he's just a winger who's big.

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  • canefanC Offline
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    replied to Bones on last edited by canefan
    #60

    @Bones said in Bledisloe 2:

    @No-Quarter said in Bledisloe 2:

    he's making breaks

    My only gripe here...is he? He appears to be being put into space to me. He's not really a power winger, he's just a winger who's big.

    Unless he starts learning to link up or set a target to recycle, what's the point?

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  • boobooB Do not disturb
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    replied to Crucial on last edited by
    #61

    @Crucial said in Bledisloe 2:

    @booboo said in Bledisloe 2:

    @Crucial said in Bledisloe 2:

    @Bovidae said in Bledisloe 2:

    @KiwiMurph

    I think they'll favour Ennor over Fainga'anuku to provide cover at 12 and 13. It might be Reece and Ennor on the bench, with Jordan as fullback cover if BB has to go off. It's easier to slot someone on the wing than rearrange the midfield - again.

    Why make it so complicated when there is only one spot to fill?

    Upvote for the bold. But we will need to find a bench replacement too.

    FC, BB and Reece.

    Leaves us short of midfield cover.

    I'm thinking LF.

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  • No QuarterN Offline
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    replied to Bones on last edited by
    #62

    @Bones said in Bledisloe 2:

    @No-Quarter said in Bledisloe 2:

    he's making breaks

    My only gripe here...is he? He appears to be being put into space to me. He's not really a power winger, he's just a winger who's big.

    He's knocked a couple of blokes out trying to tackle him this year! But yeah he probably hasn't busted through tackles like he did before he went to 7s, but he's got plenty of power and is not easy to tackle when he's got a head of steam up. He's also looking for work more than Jordan, hence him being in a position to take those passes and go through the gap at full speed.

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  • BonesB Offline
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    replied to No Quarter on last edited by
    #63

    @No-Quarter said in Bledisloe 2:

    not easy to tackle when he's got a head of steam up

    Just needs to stop his propensity to go to ground before being tackled and he'll be a lot more dangerous.

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    replied to booboo on last edited by nostrildamus
    #64

    @booboo said in Bledisloe 2:

    @Victor-Meldrew said in Bledisloe 2:

    @Bovidae said in Bledisloe 2:

    @Victor-Meldrew Ennor will have to be on the bench as centre cover (and wing). He isn't an option at 2nd 5. If RTS doesn't start there is no point him being in the 23.

    A JB at 12/BB at 15 combo has less risk than RTS at 12 - particularly if we want to keep the EP record.

    Just a pity we haven't been able to blood newer players as much as we would have liked.

    I don't see RTS as a risk.

    And I question the need to play a 15 at 12 and a 10 at 15.

    DH was a 15 at 12.

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  • M Offline
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    wrote on last edited by Machpants
    #65

    Just rewatched with more calm, and if Foster doen't put Jordie at 12 he's a fucking tool. Jordie has all the skills that Havili has, but is bigger and can actually hit the bloody line. Admitedly he needs to remember in tight to go lower than he would in backfield play, but he was bloody good.

    Christie (Smith didn't run once, again), Mo'unga, CC (at least he's big & fast), Jordie, Ioane (prefer on the wing but this is where we are at), Reece, BB (he didn't fight for control bled 1)

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    replied to ACT Crusader on last edited by nostrildamus
    #66

    @ACT-Crusader said in Bledisloe 2:

    @gt12 funnily enough Reece has played in the midfield for the ABs once and did so for Ta$man and Saders.

    Once we lost our two 2nd 5s our set ups at set piece were quite interesting. Beaudie was often in that 2nd 5 position in attack. Defensively Beaudie was at the back. In phase play there was a bit of mix and match between Richie, Jordie and Beaudie on who was at 1st receiver and who was in the secondary line for the next phase.

    Wasn't Reece a 12 at school?
    edit: mentioned above.

    How are the UJs tracking? Still injured?

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