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    If we start JB, there will be no 2nd 5 cover unless RTS is on the bench. But he needs time, not ‘make an impact’.

    Itd start RTS, since Ennor is in the squad, he goes the bench with Barrett.

    I’ve seen Reece cover center as well, so they could start him on the wing and bring Barrett and Jordan off the bench. However, I don’t like the risk of Rieko gets injured as I don’t really think Reece should be more than emergency cover (I.e., 3rd option).

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    RTS at 12, rest of backline to stay the same. JB covers 12. Least disruption.
    13 cover is an issue but we haven't had any 13 cover all year.

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    @gt12 funnily enough Reece has played in the midfield for the ABs once and did so for Ta$man and Saders.

    Once we lost our two 2nd 5s our set ups at set piece were quite interesting. Beaudie was often in that 2nd 5 position in attack. Defensively Beaudie was at the back. In phase play there was a bit of mix and match between Richie, Jordie and Beaudie on who was at 1st receiver and who was in the secondary line for the next phase.

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    @ACT-Crusader said in Bledisloe 2:

    @gt12 funnily enough Reece has played in the midfield for the ABs once and did so for Ta$man and Saders.

    And Reece played most of his schoolboy career in the midfield. I'm not sure they'd trust LF in the midfield just yet.

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    I could see Leicester coming in for Clarke and adding 13 cover.

    Foster name checked Leicester.

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    @KiwiMurph

    I think they'll favour Ennor over Fainga'anuku to provide cover at 12 and 13. It might be Reece and Ennor on the bench, with Jordan as fullback cover if BB has to go off. It's easier to slot someone on the wing than rearrange the midfield - again.

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    @Bovidae said in Bledisloe 2:

    @KiwiMurph

    I think they'll favour Ennor over Fainga'anuku to provide cover at 12 and 13. It might be Reece and Ennor on the bench, with Jordan as fullback cover if BB has to go off. It's easier to slot someone on the wing than rearrange the midfield - again.

    Why make it so complicated when there is only one spot to fill?

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    @Crucial said in Bledisloe 2:

    Why make it so complicated when there is only one spot to fill?

    In the starting XV or 23?

    There needs to be two new back reserves to replace BB (on the assumption he starts at FB) and Tupaea (injured). RTS can provide 2nd 5 cover only, but that will mean Reece misses out.

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    @Bovidae said in Bledisloe 2:

    The easiest option is JB to 12 and BB to 15, i.e., the backline that played in the 2nd half. I also don't think that the RM-BB combo has worked that well.

    Putting RTS at 12, in combination with Ioane, could also be looked at. Less disruption and you still have the aerial strength and big boot of JB at the back. BB to provide impact off the bench.

    If they do go for RTS they’ll be tempted to have BB start at 10. A 10/12/13 combo that went well in SR

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    @Duluth with that 10, 12, 13 would you have JB at 15 and stick with the current wings? I think I'd be ok with that midfield if we had Reece in for Clarke.

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    @Paekakboyz

    Reece in for Jordan IMO

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    @Crucial said in Bledisloe 2:

    @Bovidae said in Bledisloe 2:

    @KiwiMurph

    I think they'll favour Ennor over Fainga'anuku to provide cover at 12 and 13. It might be Reece and Ennor on the bench, with Jordan as fullback cover if BB has to go off. It's easier to slot someone on the wing than rearrange the midfield - again.

    Why make it so complicated when there is only one spot to fill?

    Upvote for the bold. But we will need to find a bench replacement too.

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    Clarke and Jordan definitely need some polish, but they are strike weapons we will need at the WC.

    Defensive pattern and tight five depth are my biggest concerns.

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    @booboo said in Bledisloe 2:

    @Crucial said in Bledisloe 2:

    @Bovidae said in Bledisloe 2:

    @KiwiMurph

    I think they'll favour Ennor over Fainga'anuku to provide cover at 12 and 13. It might be Reece and Ennor on the bench, with Jordan as fullback cover if BB has to go off. It's easier to slot someone on the wing than rearrange the midfield - again.

    Why make it so complicated when there is only one spot to fill?

    Upvote for the bold. But we will need to find a bench replacement too.

    FC, BB and Reece.

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    @Crazy-Horse said in Bledisloe 2:

    @Bones said in Bledisloe 2:

    @Crazy-Horse said in Bledisloe 2:

    @Bones said in Foster:

    @Crazy-Horse he's used to playing outside Morgan who is more like RM.

    I was more concerned at the prospect of BB being at 15 with RM at 10. That has not worked and I suspect adding JB into the playmaking mix may complicate things too much.

    Yeah I don't really see that JB would play more of a playmaking role than DH?

    Still missing my point. I have no issue with JB being at 12 no matter how he plays. My issue is with RM at 10 if BB is at 15. Those two haven't worked out how to play well together.

    No, you explicitly said adding JB into the playmaking mix may complicate things, which makes no sense when you consider the role DH plays.

    Who knows, maybe JB at 12 may be the key to unlocking the RM/BB dysfunction?

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    Has RTS lost his pace? I do wish he could've had a bit more "learnings" at centre or wing, would solve a problem or two.

    I like the idea of Perofeta to fullback if JB to 12. Swap out Jordan for Reece - at least Clarke is trying, I'm sick of seeing Jordan watching on, there was more than one kick he could have put pressure on.

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    @Bones said in Bledisloe 2:

    @Crazy-Horse said in Bledisloe 2:

    @Bones said in Bledisloe 2:

    @Crazy-Horse said in Bledisloe 2:

    @Bones said in Foster:

    @Crazy-Horse he's used to playing outside Morgan who is more like RM.

    I was more concerned at the prospect of BB being at 15 with RM at 10. That has not worked and I suspect adding JB into the playmaking mix may complicate things too much.

    Yeah I don't really see that JB would play more of a playmaking role than DH?

    Still missing my point. I have no issue with JB being at 12 no matter how he plays. My issue is with RM at 10 if BB is at 15. Those two haven't worked out how to play well together.

    No, you explicitly said adding JB into the playmaking mix may complicate things, which makes no sense when you consider the role DH plays.

    Who knows, maybe JB at 12 may be the key to unlocking the RM/BB dysfunction?

    Ok, you win.

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  • BonesB Offline
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    @Crazy-Horse said in Bledisloe 2:

    @Bones said in Bledisloe 2:

    @Crazy-Horse said in Bledisloe 2:

    @Bones said in Bledisloe 2:

    @Crazy-Horse said in Bledisloe 2:

    @Bones said in Foster:

    @Crazy-Horse he's used to playing outside Morgan who is more like RM.

    I was more concerned at the prospect of BB being at 15 with RM at 10. That has not worked and I suspect adding JB into the playmaking mix may complicate things too much.

    Yeah I don't really see that JB would play more of a playmaking role than DH?

    Still missing my point. I have no issue with JB being at 12 no matter how he plays. My issue is with RM at 10 if BB is at 15. Those two haven't worked out how to play well together.

    No, you explicitly said adding JB into the playmaking mix may complicate things, which makes no sense when you consider the role DH plays.

    Who knows, maybe JB at 12 may be the key to unlocking the RM/BB dysfunction?

    Ok, you win.

    So do the ABs.

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  • canefanC Offline
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    @Bones said in Bledisloe 2:

    @Crazy-Horse said in Bledisloe 2:

    @Bones said in Bledisloe 2:

    @Crazy-Horse said in Bledisloe 2:

    @Bones said in Foster:

    @Crazy-Horse he's used to playing outside Morgan who is more like RM.

    I was more concerned at the prospect of BB being at 15 with RM at 10. That has not worked and I suspect adding JB into the playmaking mix may complicate things too much.

    Yeah I don't really see that JB would play more of a playmaking role than DH?

    Still missing my point. I have no issue with JB being at 12 no matter how he plays. My issue is with RM at 10 if BB is at 15. Those two haven't worked out how to play well together.

    No, you explicitly said adding JB into the playmaking mix may complicate things, which makes no sense when you consider the role DH plays.

    Who knows, maybe JB at 12 may be the key to unlocking the RM/BB dysfunction?

    I hope so. Wouldn't that be something? We either have a shit D coach or lack leadership on defence. Snake used to boss the midfield, maybe JB can do it too?

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