All Blacks v Argentina II
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@Hooroo said in All Blacks v Argentina II:
And if they retain the Bled and win Tri-Nations as favourites??
Then it hides the fact that we still haven't consistently found the solution for the power and pressure game that most of our rivals bring against us.
Australia are a different kettle of fish. They will play their style and it is pretty rare to see an Oz team play a limited, disciplined pressure game. -
@Hooroo said in All Blacks v Argentina II:
So what’s the story if the ABs sort their shit out and trounce Argentina???
That are we are reactive team that can't string together consistent performances and likely to lose knockout games because of it.
Also probably rely on emotion to "get up" for the odd good performance that papers over the cracks of poor selection and poor coaching.
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@nzzp said in All Blacks v Argentina II:
@Hooroo said in All Blacks v Argentina II:
So what’s the story if the ABs sort their shit out and trounce Argentina???
Better execution last week and we score 30+
We dominated. Just couldn't convert into points
I didn't see that at all. I felt we were the better side, but we never once looked the dominant side.
We scored off a lineout drive, and a turn-over lineout when they were not ready to defend. While we made metres up the field in the first half, we never looked like cracking them. As we tired, defending got easier for them. We simply have lost any sting in our attack.
Also "dominating" while not being able to get points is pretty much how the All Blacks always lose. (It's only under Foster that we have consistently moved to actually being a much worse side than out opposition.) I say "dominating" because if you are unable to score points, you aren't actually dominating.
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@Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks v Argentina II:
@taniwharugby said in All Blacks v Argentina II:
These players don't become shit overnight, we have seen patches in several tests in the past 12 months that proves just this, so why are we only getting 10 or 20 mins a test of quality test rugby?
I'm genuinely convinced it's a collective head/mental thing. And while that's down to Foster to fix, the players need to fix that as well - but I'm pretty convinced Foster's not the person to lead that fix.
As above, if the players aren't doing what the coach wants, why weren't more dropped after the Irish test series?
Very true, but he's got himself into a position where that option was pretty limited - some thru injuries, some thru excessive caution and always being on the back-foot. Big gripe for me is how a relative newbie has one bad game and then goes out of favour (it's almost as if he reads The Fern...) Needs to be a wee bit bolder as he was with the front row.
I can’t shake the feeling that Foster is overly pally with the players. Good relationships yes, but there have to be times when the hair dryer comes out. Joe is certainly known to have an industrial grade one. And Fozzie also doesn’t come across as a winner, whilst recognising how shallow that sounds.
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@Nevorian said in All Blacks v Argentina II:
@Hooroo said in All Blacks v Argentina II:
So what’s the story if the ABs sort their shit out and trounce Argentina???
That Codie Taylor has had his day sadly
Obviously someone connected to either the NZ Selectors (Fosters Mob) and/or the NZRFU does not agree you you given this three year contract awarded little more than eight months ago
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@pakman said in All Blacks v Argentina II:
@Nepia said in All Blacks v Argentina II:
@pakman said in All Blacks v Argentina II:
Ardie/Scooter/Paps.
That's fucking awful - bring a 7 on at 8, move a slow footed lock to 6, and move the 8 to 7.
Mex is adamant Paps is not a 7.
what is he then? update: 8? Ok. That might have some merit. But he needs to play there. Didn't catch why Mexted doesn't like Gus or Hosea at 8.
Dalton in school days:
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if the loose forwards are dominating who is letting Ardie down to win 2/8? Did a journalist ask him?
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@Higgins said in All Blacks v Argentina II:
@Nevorian said in All Blacks v Argentina II:
@Hooroo said in All Blacks v Argentina II:
So what’s the story if the ABs sort their shit out and trounce Argentina???
That Codie Taylor has had his day sadly
Obviously someone connected to either the NZ Selectors (Fosters Mob) and/or the NZRFU does not agree you you given this three year contract awarded little more than eight months ago
.That doesn’t mean he is an automatic AB selection though. Shame he is tied to NZ could probably pick up some good dollars up north
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Is this weather going to stick around or pass through?
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@Machpants I'm still buzzing from our win earlier, not sure I want to watch
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@taniwharugby said in All Blacks v Argentina II:
@Machpants I'm still buzzing from our win earlier, not sure I want to watch
Lol yeah, don't ruin there moment
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@Nevorian But he will still be getting paid big money whether he plays or not. On top of the retainer part of the contract there are various top ups payable on assembly, whether you take part in training, part of the matchday 23 or part of the starting 15. Either way he will still be taking home decent money and the use of a Ford motor vehicle (or at least it was part of the package a few years back) that could be better used on another prospect.
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