Springboks v All Blacks I
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Ball protection needs to be better by the ABs. This is something that I would like to see improve since the Irish series. They've had plenty of time to understand their roles in the attacking patterns.
Cleaners need to be close to the ball carrier to stop the Boks from contesting and generating quick ball. The Boks will look to contest the breakdown to stop ABs from playing their tempo game. ABs showed last year, as did Oz and England , that you can break the Bok defence down with 2-3 quick phases. But you need to be super accurate to do so.
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@Nepia need to mix it up, we are far too predictable.
Too often he stands on the wing redundant when he'd be more useful in closer either carrying or cleaning.
Need to vary our play from that wide pass from Smith, bring some in close, keep the same way for more than 2, but more importantly, hit the ball at fucking pace for fuck sake!
Run some angles, use deception, this is where Sotutu would be great.
Too often we are getting the ball 1 step from static or static and therefore so easy to pick off with a half decent d, and the Irish rush d is probably the best.
Keep it simple, run hard and fast.
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Foster at the press conference,
“We have never been a great July team “
Well thank fuck it’s August then
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Interesting that newshub have just shown a ~30 sec montage of the NZ - SA rivalry, and now talking to Goldie and a SA commentator...not seen anything like this for some time, usually just a cursory comment on the team, even during the Irish tour there was little talk (that I saw) like this on MSM
Guess Fozzie is generating some interest...
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The ABs will need to find a way to ensure attacking ball from the middle or back of the lineout. Ireland, with a weaker lineout than SAs, effectively shut down those areas and forced NZ to throw to the front. It’s very hard to launch midfield plays when Smith is forced to pass that distance. I think it’s part of the reason why Irelands rush defence was so effective. It’s also crap ball to maul off.
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@Machpants said in Springboks v All Blacks I:
@Mackerzzzz said in Springboks v All Blacks I:
A typically shocking team...
Also I thought Angus was suspended?
Got a week off for going to a how to tackle course
I hope they sent the entire squad to that course.
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@ARHS said in Springboks v All Blacks I:
Both surprised and disappointed to see Reece out of the lineup and Clarke in. But I thought he might be 23.
I remain sceptical about our choices at 12 and 6. Let's hope that both step up for 80 minutes and spark us to a victory.@ARHS said in Springboks v All Blacks I:
Both surprised and disappointed to see Reece out of the lineup and Clarke in. But I thought he might be 23.
I remain sceptical about our choices at 12 and 6. Let's hope that both step up for 80 minutes and spark us to a victory.I half agree because I reckon Akira is a key man against those Bok brutes.
Havilli might well end up a speed bump for De Allende though.
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@FakatavaAllBlack said in Springboks v All Blacks I:
@Bones funny thing is Frizell was in fact a goal keeper
of course...i think we all assumed @Bones had done the research...
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@ACT-Crusader said in Springboks v All Blacks I:
@Bovidae said in Springboks v All Blacks I:
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@mariner4life said in Springboks v All Blacks I:
So I guess the Ireland debacle was all Taylor and Reece's fault aye?
I mean Taylor played his part stinking up the joint but very harsh on Reece, I'd like to see him on the bench as he could make a real impact late in the game
The reserve backline mix is all wrong. Either Rieko or one of the Barretts would need to move to the wing if Clarke or Jordan went off injured. And then Havili to centre - that worked out well in the 3rd test.
One step forward with ST starting but then one step backwards with other selections.
I think it’s simple 10 or 15 get injured/replaced Mo’unga comes on.
If 11-14, QT comes on. QT plays centre if Ioane needs replacing. If a winger, then Ioane to wing and QT to centre.
the main fucking problem is if it's not for injury then you get some muddled shit like Ireland 3 where Mounga comes on, but we leave Barretts and Havili on and the entire backline looks like it was drawn out of a hat.
Having Barrett and Mounga in teh same 23 is pure injury cover these days. They are the exact same fucking player. And Apparently you can't sub a Barrett, so they both end up ont eh field together getting in everyone's way.
It's just muddled thinking, and more evidence of "pick your best 23 players, not your best team" which is very apparent and very detrimental
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@mariner4life its fucking infuriating isn't it!
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despite the team being entirely predictable (Clarke the only selection in the 23 that actually raised an eyebrow) i am actually less confident than i was when it was named.
Same players. Same coaches. All ruthlessly exploited by the Irish not 2 fucking weeks ago.
The boks will be even better at set piece. Even better at the breakdown. and kick better. All areas we were very much 2nd in during that Irish series. The only thing that gives confidence is i don't see the Boks having that varied attack that had us chasing shadows for two tests. My guess is our pattern covers them better than what the Irish threw at us (that's a guess).
I hpe to fuck Jordan or Reiko have blinders on the counter, or Savea magics up some points to make up for the errors. Or we are boned.
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@mariner4life for all the talk of Ryan having limited time with the pack, I think in a way, that isnt a bad thing, especially if he just takes it back to the basics, play simple rugby.
Use AI, ST, SB, GB, AT, to truck it, clean efficiently, draw thier numbers in, when we move it wider with support and hit the ball with pace, make sure we have bodies in motion, and on the other side of the ball, make your fucking tackles.
Easy as!
Our mid-field still concerns me though, DH & RI, just dont seem a great pairing, given neither are natural mid-fielders and still learning there, plus there are questions over DH being at 12 in the first place, but thats a conversation not unlike Ardie isnt an 8...
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@ARHS said in Springboks v All Blacks I:
Both surprised and disappointed to see Reece out of the lineup and Clarke in. But I thought he might be 23.
I remain sceptical about our choices at 12 and 6. Let's hope that both step up for 80 minutes and spark us to a victory.Reece is unlucky. I think he's certainly the better player overall and in a functioning team he starts. But because they're not functioning, at all, they've gone for the hail mary move which is to select Clarke and hope he has a game like he had at Eden Park two years ago.
Despite Sevu having the greater net value, I do think Clarke might get them over the gainline more often though, which shows how desperate they are for go forward.
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