Springboks v All Blacks I
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@taniwharugby said in Springboks v All Blacks I:
@Old-Samurai-Jack I think it would be impossible to have a forward coach with zero input into the seleciton of the forward pack...recipe for disaster...
so on thinking, yeah thats probably exactly what happens...the selectors pick thier team and ask the forwards coach to work with them.
Ryan himself said that he would only be concentrating on aspects of the forward play. He hasn't had time to do lineout, scrum, maul attack, maul defence and interplay. As @ACT-Crusader says, he will have had input eg this group or this guy are doing this aspect well but I doubt he gets final say
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@KiwiMurph said in Springboks v All Blacks I:
@Machpants said in Springboks v All Blacks I:
The selectors don't name the 23, so it's irrelevant whether he's a selector or not. Selector is only involved in selecting the entire squad
I don't believe that's true. Fox made it pretty clear during the Irish series he's involved in the team selections.
I blame Fox
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@broughie said in Springboks v All Blacks I:
@nzzp One thing Barrett is trying to do is take on the line so that the back line is less predictable although they are predictable. Moanga needs space and is a flyweight. Possibly better when everyone is fatigued.
His tendency to go backwards to find a hole is a bit disastrous at Test level. And that’s ignoring that he needs to be hidden on defence.
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@Crucial said in Springboks v All Blacks I:
@taniwharugby said in Springboks v All Blacks I:
@Old-Samurai-Jack I think it would be impossible to have a forward coach with zero input into the seleciton of the forward pack...recipe for disaster...
so on thinking, yeah thats probably exactly what happens...the selectors pick thier team and ask the forwards coach to work with them.
Ryan himself said that he would only be concentrating on aspects of the forward play. He hasn't had time to do lineout, scrum, maul attack, maul defence and interplay. As @ACT-Crusader says, he will have had input eg this group or this guy are doing this aspect well but I doubt he gets final say
yeah I covered that off in my post.
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@ACT-Crusader said in Springboks v All Blacks I:
@KiwiMurph said in Springboks v All Blacks I:
@Machpants said in Springboks v All Blacks I:
The selectors don't name the 23, so it's irrelevant whether he's a selector or not. Selector is only involved in selecting the entire squad
I don't believe that's true. Fox made it pretty clear during the Irish series he's involved in the team selections.
I blame Fox
You spelled "Deans" wrong ..
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@mariner4life said in Springboks v All Blacks I:
Call me arrogant, but i firmly believe the result on Saturday is more down to us than them.
Far from arrogant, you’re being wonderfully generous. Takes all the pressure off the boks and us poor unfortunates who support them.
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@game_film said in Springboks v All Blacks I:
Looking at the photo (top left) it might give a clue as to the back line. Or not. Speculate away.
4 backs is certainly a novel tactic.
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@Billy-Tell said in Springboks v All Blacks I:
@game_film said in Springboks v All Blacks I:
Looking at the photo (top left) it might give a clue as to the back line. Or not. Speculate away.
4 backs is certainly a novel tactic.
You would've thought an expert marksman had decent eyesight...
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@game_film said in Springboks v All Blacks I:
Looking at the photo (top left) it might give a clue as to the back line. Or not. Speculate away.
I'm not even sure who a couple of players are there. So if we take out whoever is in the bib is that a QT/Ioane midfield with Jordie at 15 and the wings Clarke and Jordan?
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@Bones said in Springboks v All Blacks I:
@Billy-Tell said in Springboks v All Blacks I:
@game_film said in Springboks v All Blacks I:
Looking at the photo (top left) it might give a clue as to the back line. Or not. Speculate away.
4 backs is certainly a novel tactic.
You would've thought an expert marksman had decent eyesight...
I see Clarke, rieko, Beauden and Quinn but pray do tell if you spot others.
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@Billy-Tell said in Springboks v All Blacks I:
@Bones said in Springboks v All Blacks I:
@Billy-Tell said in Springboks v All Blacks I:
@game_film said in Springboks v All Blacks I:
Looking at the photo (top left) it might give a clue as to the back line. Or not. Speculate away.
4 backs is certainly a novel tactic.
You would've thought an expert marksman had decent eyesight...
I see Clarke, rieko, Beauden and Quinn but pray do tell if you spot others.
Def Jordie but I'm unsure who is in the cap. Could be Jordan with a mo?
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@Crucial said in Springboks v All Blacks I:
@Billy-Tell said in Springboks v All Blacks I:
@Bones said in Springboks v All Blacks I:
@Billy-Tell said in Springboks v All Blacks I:
@game_film said in Springboks v All Blacks I:
Looking at the photo (top left) it might give a clue as to the back line. Or not. Speculate away.
4 backs is certainly a novel tactic.
You would've thought an expert marksman had decent eyesight...
I see Clarke, rieko, Beauden and Quinn but pray do tell if you spot others.
Def Jordie but I'm unsure who is in the cap. Could be Jordan with a mo?
I was getting Dalton vibes for the last guy...
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@Darren said in Springboks v All Blacks I:
@Crucial said in Springboks v All Blacks I:
@Billy-Tell said in Springboks v All Blacks I:
@Bones said in Springboks v All Blacks I:
@Billy-Tell said in Springboks v All Blacks I:
@game_film said in Springboks v All Blacks I:
Looking at the photo (top left) it might give a clue as to the back line. Or not. Speculate away.
4 backs is certainly a novel tactic.
You would've thought an expert marksman had decent eyesight...
I see Clarke, rieko, Beauden and Quinn but pray do tell if you spot others.
Def Jordie but I'm unsure who is in the cap. Could be Jordan with a mo?
I was getting Dalton vibes for the last guy...
Could well be. We get our third opensider on by playing him on the wing. Brilliant innovation.
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@Billy-Tell said in Springboks v All Blacks I:
@Bones said in Springboks v All Blacks I:
@Billy-Tell said in Springboks v All Blacks I:
@game_film said in Springboks v All Blacks I:
Looking at the photo (top left) it might give a clue as to the back line. Or not. Speculate away.
4 backs is certainly a novel tactic.
You would've thought an expert marksman had decent eyesight...
I see Clarke, rieko, Beauden and Quinn but pray do tell if you spot others.
Starting from the far side - Christie, BB, Tupaea, Rieko, Reece, Clarke.
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@Crucial said in Springboks v All Blacks I:
@Darren said in Springboks v All Blacks I:
@Crucial said in Springboks v All Blacks I:
@Billy-Tell said in Springboks v All Blacks I:
@Bones said in Springboks v All Blacks I:
@Billy-Tell said in Springboks v All Blacks I:
@game_film said in Springboks v All Blacks I:
Looking at the photo (top left) it might give a clue as to the back line. Or not. Speculate away.
4 backs is certainly a novel tactic.
You would've thought an expert marksman had decent eyesight...
I see Clarke, rieko, Beauden and Quinn but pray do tell if you spot others.
Def Jordie but I'm unsure who is in the cap. Could be Jordan with a mo?
I was getting Dalton vibes for the last guy...
Could well be. We get our third opensider on by playing him on the wing. Brilliant innovation.
Probably still quicker than Bridge
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@Darren said in Springboks v All Blacks I:
@Crucial said in Springboks v All Blacks I:
@Darren said in Springboks v All Blacks I:
@Crucial said in Springboks v All Blacks I:
@Billy-Tell said in Springboks v All Blacks I:
@Bones said in Springboks v All Blacks I:
@Billy-Tell said in Springboks v All Blacks I:
@game_film said in Springboks v All Blacks I:
Looking at the photo (top left) it might give a clue as to the back line. Or not. Speculate away.
4 backs is certainly a novel tactic.
You would've thought an expert marksman had decent eyesight...
I see Clarke, rieko, Beauden and Quinn but pray do tell if you spot others.
Def Jordie but I'm unsure who is in the cap. Could be Jordan with a mo?
I was getting Dalton vibes for the last guy...
Could well be. We get our third opensider on by playing him on the wing. Brilliant innovation.
Probably still quicker than Bridge
Not sure about quicker but might be able to break a tackle or beat a man
