Springboks v All Blacks I
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@Tim said in Springboks v All Blacks I:
Interesting to see Cane once again trot the complete bullshit about the team not being far off, not many areas need to improve etc. He's kept saying that, and it's obviously been very wrong. It's a fucked up attitude, and as a guy who is below test level in current ability and form, he better bring something better than that bullshit as captain.
Should have been dumped last year.
But what can he say. He's got to beleive in the team
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@Tim said in Springboks v All Blacks I:
@Winger Is Coles able to contribute anything now? He's extremely old, and there have been no signs of being anything close to test level this year.
Depends how is fitness is. Maybe he's past it but then why is he in the team. Hes one injury away from making the 23
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@Winger A little bit of honesty!
"We were way off the level required against a top international team like Ireland. We have to be much better in every aspect, but especially defence. It's up to all of us in the squad and management team to get us playing at All Blacks level."
That sends a much better message than once again recycling "we're not far off" after copping yet another hiding. Being nice and liked doesn't mean anything if it's the only thing you can be.
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A backline of
Smith, Mo’unga, Fainga’anuku, Havili, Goodhue, Reece, Jordan
Bench: Christie, B. Barrett, R. Ioane
And if it goes pear shape, the Fern will have plenty of fun. I will go into hiding…
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@ACT-Crusader said in Springboks v All Blacks I:
A backline of
Smith, Mo’unga, Fainga’anuku, Havili, Goodhue, Reece, Jordan
Bench: Christie, B. Barrett, R. Ioane
And if it goes pear shape, the Fern will have plenty of fun. I will go into hiding…
poor from you
what happened to the halfback being "A Highlander"
Standards are slipping everywhere
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@Winger that one will be interesting, but given Fozzie was selecting Taylor previously, you could argue if he starts again, that it isnt all Ryan, but then you would hope that maybe Ryan will know what buttons to push to get him firing again.
That said, ST needs to start against a top opposition to see if he can claim that role.
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@ACT-Crusader said in Springboks v All Blacks I:
A backline of
Smith, Mo’unga, Fainga’anuku, Havili, Goodhue, Reece, Jordan
Bench: Christie, B. Barrett, R. Ioane
And if it goes pear shape, the Fern will have plenty of fun. I will go into hiding…
Robertson's not AB head coach yet.
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@ACT-Crusader said in Springboks v All Blacks I:
I wouldn’t be surprised if we started with:
Bower, Sami T, Ta’avao, Va’ai, Whitelock, S. Barrett, Cane, Savea
De Groot, Taylor, Newell, A. Ioane, Papalii
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@ACT-Crusader said in Springboks v All Blacks I:
I wouldn’t be surprised if we started with:
Bower, Sami T, Ta’avao, Va’ai, Whitelock, S. Barrett, Cane, Savea
De Groot, Taylor, Newell, A. Ioane, Papalii
That's more or less what I was suggesting yesterday.
Might be next week's selection if we lose.
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@mariner4life said in Springboks v All Blacks I:
@ACT-Crusader said in Springboks v All Blacks I:
A backline of
Smith, Mo’unga, Fainga’anuku, Havili, Goodhue, Reece, Jordan
Bench: Christie, B. Barrett, R. Ioane
And if it goes pear shape, the Fern will have plenty of fun. I will go into hiding…
poor from you
what happened to the halfback being "A Highlander"
Standards are slipping everywhere
It’s not easy under Albanese 😉
It’s T. Lander.
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@Winger said in Springboks v All Blacks I:
@ACT-Crusader said in Springboks v All Blacks I:
A backline of
Smith, Mo’unga, Fainga’anuku, Havili, Goodhue, Reece, Jordan
Bench: Christie, B. Barrett, R. Ioane
And if it goes pear shape, the Fern will have plenty of fun. I will go into hiding…
Robertson's not AB head coach yet.
I know, that’s why I didn’t name Bryn Hall
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I thought it has been made clear that Ryan has nothing to do with team selection yet.
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@Old-Samurai-Jack I think it would be impossible to have a forward coach with zero input into the seleciton of the forward pack...recipe for disaster...
so on thinking, yeah thats probably exactly what happens...the selectors pick thier team and ask the forwards coach to work with them.
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@taniwharugby I know cynicism is at an all time high right now, but I think it’s a little more organic than that. There would be regular communication amongst the coaches on who and what is working, how players are pulling up etc.
He may not be sitting at the table (just yet) when the team is finally decided but all the input will factor in.
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@Machpants said in Springboks v All Blacks I:
The selectors don't name the 23, so it's irrelevant whether he's a selector or not. Selector is only involved in selecting the entire squad
I don't believe that's true. Fox made it pretty clear during the Irish series he's involved in the team selections.
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@ACT-Crusader well the 2nd part of my post was pure sarcasm, I do not honestly believe the forwards coach would have no input into the selection of the pack.
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@taniwharugby said in Springboks v All Blacks I:
@Old-Samurai-Jack I think it would be impossible to have a forward coach with zero input into the seleciton of the forward pack...recipe for disaster...
so on thinking, yeah thats probably exactly what happens...the selectors pick thier team and ask the forwards coach to work with them.
Ryan himself said that he would only be concentrating on aspects of the forward play. He hasn't had time to do lineout, scrum, maul attack, maul defence and interplay. As @ACT-Crusader says, he will have had input eg this group or this guy are doing this aspect well but I doubt he gets final say
