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  • BonesB Offline
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    @Crucial always? You've watched all his videos?

    Fails? That's very strong. Maybe that's not his job ..

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    @Bones said in Springboks v All Blacks I:

    @Crucial always? You've watched all his videos?

    Fails? That's very strong. Maybe that's not his job ..

    We do have room for hyperbole here. Without it the threads would be short.

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    @Crucial said in Springboks v All Blacks I:

    @Bones said in Springboks v All Blacks I:

    @Crucial always? You've watched all his videos?

    Fails? That's very strong. Maybe that's not his job ..

    We do have room for hyperbole here. Without it the threads would be short.

    I just can't believe how you people act towards public figures.

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    If you can't take Squidge Rugby with a pinch of salt, I mean ... maybe lighten up a bit

    Squidge is just a real rugby fan who never started it for the $$$, his early videos were hilarious and so edgy he got banned from using content, so he had to wind things back a lot

    If you WANT proper tactical professional analysis read someone Nick Bishop on The Roar and especially pay a tiny amount for RugbyPass plus - I do. Seriously insightful guy https://www.rugbypass.com/plus/contributor/nick-bishop/

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    @Mario said in Springboks v All Blacks I:

    If you can't take Squidge Rugby with a pinch of salt, I mean ... maybe lighten up a bit

    Squidge is just a real rugby fan who never started it for the $$$, his early videos were hilarious and so edgy he got banned from using content, so he had to wind things back a lot

    If you WANT proper tactical professional analysis read someone Nick Bishop on The Roar and especially pay a tiny amount for RugbyPass plus - I do. Seriously insightful guy https://www.rugbypass.com/plus/contributor/nick-bishop/

    Squidge is a young fanatic, trying to make some coin out of something he loves.

    Jealousy will get you no where!

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    @pakman said in Springboks v All Blacks I:

    "All blacks at 6's and 7's, just like their world ranking at the end of the year" Pure gold, can NZR please employ this bloke for their analysis.

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    @chimoaus said in Springboks v All Blacks I:

    @pakman said in Springboks v All Blacks I:

    "All blacks at 6's and 7's, just like their world ranking at the end of the year" Pure gold, can NZR please employ this bloke for their analysis.

    That's Joe's job 🙂

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    @stodders said in Springboks v All Blacks I:

    @chimoaus said in Springboks v All Blacks I:

    @pakman said in Springboks v All Blacks I:

    "All blacks at 6's and 7's, just like their world ranking at the end of the year" Pure gold, can NZR please employ this bloke for their analysis.

    That's Joe's job 🙂

    I would just play this video to Fozzie and say "Please Explain"

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    @Crucial said in Springboks v All Blacks I:

    We do have room for hyperbole here. Without it the threads would be short.

    I suspect you underestimate the repetitive and circular nature of certain posters or posters. Not to mention magnificent meme memory fails.

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    @stodders said in Springboks v All Blacks I:

    @chimoaus said in Springboks v All Blacks I:

    @pakman said in Springboks v All Blacks I:

    "All blacks at 6's and 7's, just like their world ranking at the end of the year" Pure gold, can NZR please employ this bloke for their analysis.

    That's Joe's job 🙂

    So what is his job at the moment?
    'Ian?'
    'Yes, Joe?'
    'Playing like shit again, Ian.'
    'Thanks for the learnings, Joe. Maybe Cane at 7 and captain, Shannon in at 6 to shake things up?'
    Phone clicks.

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    @pakman said in Springboks v All Blacks I:

    Not an easy watch but 10000% times better analysis than Jeff Wilson and his goofy crew on The Breakdown who have been inane cheerleaders for Foster during this shitstorm.

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    Not much to disagree with either.

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    @Frye said in Springboks v All Blacks I:

    @Machpants said in Springboks v All Blacks I:

    @pakman said in Springboks v All Blacks I:

    Once again I'll have to build up to watching, so painful

    His shrill narration? Yeah agreed.

    I lasted 55 secs. Any value is beyond my capacity for putting up with irritating shit.

    More importantly the Springboks didn't demolish the All Blacks, the All Blacks placed themselves under pressure time and time again. Teams short on confidence and form drop catchable passes, or over run supporting lines, or shovel to someone else in a worse position.

    If the All Blacks played against a team that's good at scoring tries like the Wallabies can, they'd have lost by a lot, lot more on that performance.

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    @antipodean said in Springboks v All Blacks I:

    @Frye said in Springboks v All Blacks I:

    @Machpants said in Springboks v All Blacks I:

    @pakman said in Springboks v All Blacks I:

    Once again I'll have to build up to watching, so painful

    His shrill narration? Yeah agreed.

    I lasted 55 secs. Any value is beyond my capacity for putting up with irritating shit.

    More importantly the Springboks didn't demolish the All Blacks, the All Blacks placed themselves under pressure time and time again. Teams short on confidence and form drop catchable passes, or over run supporting lines, or shovel to someone else in a worse position.

    If the All Blacks played against a team that's good at scoring tries like the Wallabies can, they'd have lost by a lot, lot more on that performance.

    We look paralysed by doubt and indecision right now

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    That Squidge video was pretty brutal watching. The patterns are awful.

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    @antipodean said in Springboks v All Blacks I:

    More importantly the Springboks didn't demolish the All Blacks,

    The Boks beat us in nearly every facet, it wasnt even a fair fight. Our biggest loss in SA since forever and we had no chance of winning that game. I think that is worth being called a demolition among other things.

    The worry for me is this bloke can point out everything wrong with the AB's in a short YouTube video yet Fozzie is saying it was our best performance of the year. If that was our best I hate to think what might happen this weekend.

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    @chimoaus said in Springboks v All Blacks I:

    @antipodean said in Springboks v All Blacks I:

    More importantly the Springboks didn't demolish the All Blacks,

    The Boks beat us in nearly every facet, it wasnt even a fair fight. Our biggest loss in SA since forever and we had no chance of winning that game. I think that is worth being called a demolition among other things.

    Don't look at the statistics, look at the manner in which they're achieved. A penalised scrum, Marx's wonder turnovers, flying bodies into the space for kick receivers and a solid case of tits for hands suggests less of a tactical destruction and more of individual incompetence.

    The worry for me is this bloke can point out everything wrong with the AB's in a short YouTube video yet Fozzie is saying it was our best performance of the year. If that was our best I hate to think what might happen this weekend.

    Anyone can point out what went wrong, but even then this squidge still gets it incorrect. E.g. less than three minutes in.

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    The problem here is the timing in Ardie's support line. The video maker gets it wrong. If Ardie is two steps back he's either released into a gaping hole or Cane is free to run because his opposite is forced to make a decision.

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    @antipodean or to look at it another way, if the bok player is half a step back. His excellence made this look bad. If he isn't right up there to put his hand in the way we look to have manipulated things well. In this 'new way' Cane seems to be used a lot as a link before a carry which is probably why he looks bad if you look for 'traditional 7 play'.
    This is the kind of example that I can picture Foster thinking 'man we nearly got that really right'

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    @Crucial said in Springboks v All Blacks I:

    @antipodean or to look at it another way, if the bok player is half a step back. His excellence made this look bad. If he isn't right up there to put his hand in the way we look to have manipulated things well. In this 'new way' Cane seems to be used a lot as a link before a carry which is probably why he looks bad if you look for 'traditional 7 play'.
    This is the kind of example that I can picture Foster thinking 'man we nearly got that really right'

    The problem is Foster would likely be correct. Slightly deeper and Ardie can steam on to a pass and he's away. Springboks flying up in defence isolate themselves to well timed and angled support play. Or because Ardie has more depth Kolisi may be forced to abandon the rush.

    Just as asking our forwards to actually run hard like Scotty did and got well over the advantage line., rather than statically passing to an obviously looping back. At no point are we making the opposition make decisions because it's clear as fuck what's going on.

    Those are things within our control.

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    @pakman Yeah and good luck to Squidge. I'll have to see if I can find links to his earlier videos. He literally got a cease and desist and they were taken off Youtube mainly imho as they were a bit too "edgy" i.e. funny as f*ck

    As an analyst his enthusiasm is greater than his experience so sometimes he "sees" things that don't exist or are happening randomly ... not a pro but better than most of the dross on TV or in the papers

    What happened to those two guys who did 1014 rugby - Steven and Gareth? They were great fans, good analysts, then sold out to someone. Then I never heard any more ...

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