Foster, Robertson etc
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@Bovidae said in Foster must go / Assistant Coach changes:
@canefan said in Foster must go / Assistant Coach changes:
@Bovidae said in Foster must go / Assistant Coach changes:
@BerniesCorner But if Robertson doesn't want the job now?
I'm not convinced they even asked him. But if he turned them down, there's always a danger the fish heads stop asking
The term Newshub used was that he "wanted the full runway" (i.e., 4 years before a RWC).
But that was just rumour, I don't think they asked because they haven't really considered ditching foster
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@TheMojoman said in Foster must go / Assistant Coach changes:
@Dice said in Foster must go / Assistant Coach changes:
@KiwiMurph said in All Blacks squad - The Rugby Championship:
I guess that rules out Leon as he's more of a backs and attack coach.
I hope they think and plan it through well. Taking MacDonald out stuffs the momentum the Blues have made. Taking Ryan from the Crusaders will impact them too. They did the same with Plumtree and Canes and now he’s out.
Hahahahaha
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@Machpants said in Foster must go / Assistant Coach changes:
@Bovidae said in Foster must go / Assistant Coach changes:
@canefan said in Foster must go / Assistant Coach changes:
@Bovidae said in Foster must go / Assistant Coach changes:
@BerniesCorner But if Robertson doesn't want the job now?
I'm not convinced they even asked him. But if he turned them down, there's always a danger the fish heads stop asking
The term Newshub used was that he "wanted the full runway" (i.e., 4 years before a RWC).
But that was just rumour, I don't think they asked because they haven't really considered ditching foster
My thoughts too
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@Bovidae said in Foster must go / Assistant Coach changes:
@BerniesCorner But if Robertson doesn't want the job now?
He can afford to be patient. If Foster miraculously turns things around the job will be his in 2024. If not the job will be his sooner.
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I’m surprised Macleod survived, our defence was clueless against the Irish.
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@Bovidae said in Foster must go / Assistant Coach changes:
@canefan said in Foster must go / Assistant Coach changes:
@Bovidae said in Foster must go / Assistant Coach changes:
@BerniesCorner But if Robertson doesn't want the job now?
I'm not convinced they even asked him. But if he turned them down, there's always a danger the fish heads stop asking
The term Newshub used was that he "wanted the full runway" (i.e., 4 years before a RWC).
So almost twice as long as Foster's appointment to prove himself (or not) at the top level then?
Hmmm.
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@TheMojoman said in Foster must go / Assistant Coach changes:
I’m surprised Macleod survived, our defence was clueless against the Irish.
Shockingly so. We looked like strangers
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@TheMojoman said in Foster must go / Assistant Coach changes:
@Bovidae said in Foster must go / Assistant Coach changes:
@BerniesCorner But if Robertson doesn't want the job now?
He can afford to be patient. If Foster miraculously turns things around the job will be his in 2024. If not the job will be his sooner.
And if we do pretty well at RWC2023, you really can't see NZR getting rid of a coach who brought the AB's back from a disastrous home series against Ireland in '22, to a decent result in France a year later, can you?
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@Victor-Meldrew said in Foster must go / Assistant Coach changes:
@TheMojoman said in Foster must go / Assistant Coach changes:
@Bovidae said in Foster must go / Assistant Coach changes:
@BerniesCorner But if Robertson doesn't want the job now?
He can afford to be patient. If Foster miraculously turns things around the job will be his in 2024. If not the job will be his sooner.
And if we do pretty well at RWC2023, you really can't see NZR getting rid of a coach who brought the AB's back from a disastrous home series against Ireland in '22, to a decent result in France a year later, can you?
So you think Foster will want to continue on after 2023, win or lose? I doubt it - he will have had 12 years with ABs by that stage
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@Victor-Meldrew said in Foster must go / Assistant Coach changes:
a disastrous home series against Ireland in '22, to a decent result in France a year later
what is a decent result?
For me, a 'decent result' is losing finalist, only one better than a decent result to me.
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@TheMojoman said in Foster must go / Assistant Coach changes:
I’m surprised Macleod survived, our defence was clueless against the Irish.
Jezus, has he?
Hardly seems worth any of the bother.
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@Rapido said in Foster must go / Assistant Coach changes:
@TheMojoman said in Foster must go / Assistant Coach changes:
I’m surprised Macleod survived, our defence was clueless against the Irish.
Jezus, has he?
Hardly seems worth any of the bother.
quite possable a defence coach isnt available yet. everyone has to work through contracts .anyone any good generally has a job
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@Frank said in Foster must go / Assistant Coach changes:
I can understand why Scott McLeod is being kept.
Our defense against Ireland was top notch.
They made virtually no meters against his sophisticated system.If one is being charitable, his structures probably work tolerably against SH sides.
The answer for Irish sieve probably lies in the NH. Will take a while to secure someone of the right calibre.
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@ploughboy said in Foster must go / Assistant Coach changes:
@Rapido said in Foster must go / Assistant Coach changes:
@TheMojoman said in Foster must go / Assistant Coach changes:
I’m surprised Macleod survived, our defence was clueless against the Irish.
Jezus, has he?
Hardly seems worth any of the bother.
quite possable a defence coach isnt available yet. everyone has to work through contracts .anyone any good generally has a job
Why does one need to be available to get rid of one that from outside appears to be having a detrimental effect? Let one of the other coaches do it or heck, give the players free reign until you find a coach!
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@Bones said in Foster must go / Assistant Coach changes:
@Hooroo cool. You bothered to come here to post that? Huh, maybe you're more invested than you make out...
No, why? It’s an Internet forum and I have it on my phone. I check it every now and then.
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@Chris said in Foster must go / Assistant Coach changes:
@Dan54 said in Foster must go / Assistant Coach changes:
@Kirwan said in Foster must go / Assistant Coach changes:
I hope Ryan is allowed to make actual changes to how the tight five play. I also hope if he has a say in selection he rises above provincial bias because Taylor desperately needs to be dropped.
Also, if Moat was responsible for the shithouse attack, hopefully Foster can make a positive change here too.
I think not, obviously, so hopefully they are looking some out sense quickly.
Well someone has to take Plumtrees spot on panel. and as assistant coach I guess it would be Ryan., and if Ryan isn't allowed to makre required xhanges he wouldn't be there would he?
If Ryan is stepping up to the Forward coaching job replacing Plumtree,Then it would make sense he takes Plumtrees position as the other selector.
But it is Foster and NZR so probably could be anyone then.From what I can understand he is taking the job of assistant coach which Plumtree was, and Greg Feek is specialised set piece coach? Not sure someone who knows more than me will probably explain his role.