Foster, Robertson etc
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@Stargazer said in Foster:
@Kiwiwomble I don't think the NZ rugby public was particularly pissed off at not winning in 2019 - not in the "it's been 20 fucking years and now it's four more!!!" mode, anyway. I don't think Hansen and Fozzie would have wondered whether they could live in NZ after the loss.
Significantly more vitriol this year, I think.
Fozzie has now had his arse kicked and will know an equally severe one is coming if he falls short next year.
I actually don't think we have been more underdogs going into a WC. Anyone who is watching would realise that France would have to be favourites, followed by Irish. Really believe that not sure why we keep assuming we should be favouritesto win the thing. We are not behind France and Ireland because we are poor, but because they are bloody good teams in my opinion.
Not sure we haven't been poor,I think we have over the last 2 1/2 years.
Yep mate, but I seem to recall ebverytime we go through a slump of any kind, we tend to say it's us, and perhaps don't look at how good other teams are. Not sure if you remember but basically the French team that is playing now easily won the U20 comp in 2016 or 17, and we were knocked out at Qfs or something, can't remember the year, think it was Razor's second year as coach? Not saying we haven't been well off pace, but you look at super rugby last few years very very ordinary I think, but even that I not sure about as it been so f***ed up with covid etc. But you probably pretty right, we need some real good world class players coming through pretty badly.
The French U20 team, of which several players are now in their senior squad, beat our NZ U20 in the JWC semi-finals in 2018. France won the last two (pre-covid) tournaments (2018 and 2019). Several of those players already played in the Top 14 prior to playing in that U20 team.
Edited to add that of that 2018 NZ U20 team, Sotutu, Clarke and L Fainga'anuku are now All Blacks. (Will Jordan wasn't in that NZ U20 squad due to injury). Other players who (I think) have the potential to become All Blacks are Bailyn Sullivan and Devan Flanders.
It’s a bit scary what the frogs are building , becoming a powerhouse from grassroots level up
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What's there left to say? He doesn't seem to be good coach, seeing as he had the Chiefs for a while being totally mediocre, as soon as Rennie took them, they won SR twice in a row.
Then the ABs, as soon as he takes them over, they rack up negative record after record. He might be fat, I concede that, but he is not a good coach. -
Anyone reckon he stopped off in the toilets for a quick spew/spit?
I can't see him stepping down, he cares so much about making it right that he probably can't see that taking a knee is the best option for the group.
Comes back to the shithouse management situation imo - we needed to pull the band aide off after the Ireland series and I wouldn't blame Robertson for saying I'll see ya after the world cup.
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Have the All Blacks ever lost three tests in a row at home before?
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