Blues v Canes
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<p>"Thirdly, the Blues Tevita Li forwrad pass. On another night, that's just flat"</p>
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<p>No it wasn't. It was a mile forward on any night. And the knock on wasn't as clear cut but IMO after watching it a number of times it was clearly the right call</p> -
<p>Re the Canes. A Savea had a great game</p>
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<p>But some of these new players are producing the goods. The two hookers are 19 and 20. One was taken out by Kaino who I hope doesn't start taking cheap sots as a regular occurrence now. Fifita is another who looks at home at this level. And the midfield is looking fine now after I had my doubts after week 1</p>
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<p>A much better performance but a lucky win as the Blues were the better side.</p> -
<p>still havent worked out how opinions work huh Winger?</p>
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<p>Seen plenty of passes like the one to Li given, looked flat in real time to me (I even commented on the thread that if the pass was good it was a good try, so saw it as a line ball) clear forward on replay, but for me, the knock was clear, I saw in real time, replay made it clearer, again, I commented at the time in the thread.</p>
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<p>But still doesnt excuse the 60mins or so the Blues played with little enterprise or agression and allowed the canes to dictate terms.</p>
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<p>Was surprised Tana went to his bench in the dying 5 mins though, with the game in the balance, but guess it shows he trusts his entire squad, or wants to.</p> -
I rarely agree with Winger but the pass was forward. We were sitting in line in the south stand and could see it in real time. However I've seen worse ones let go. Same can be said for Ardie's pickup on the way to TJPs try. I would have been ok if it had been disallowed but I'm glad we got the benefit of both decisions going our way
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One Blues player that surprised me and doesn't get a lot of notice is Parsons. Turned up in a lot of the right places at the right time to make tackles or link play.</p></blockquote>
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His throwing is spot on as well, which it needs to be in a fairly simple blues lineout structure -
<p>bigger blow for the 7s than the Blues....bummer for him.</p>
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<p>Yeah that was probably the best I have seen Parsons play, also liking the career arc of Moala.</p>
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<p>wITH Nonu & Smith out of the way, there are a few players putting up their hands for further scrutiny</p> -
<p>Based on the injuries this would be my side for next week. I would also give Otere Black a crack at 10 on his home patch against the Force and switch Barrett to Fullback.</p>
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<p>1. Chris Eves</p>
<p>2. Dane Coles</p>
<p>3. Jeff Toomaga Allen</p>
<p>4. Blade Thomson</p>
<p>5. Mark Abbott</p>
<p>6. Vaea Fifita</p>
<p>7. Ardie Savea</p>
<p>8. Victor Vito</p>
<p>9. TJ Perenara</p>
<p>10. Otere Black</p>
<p>11. Julian Savea</p>
<p>12. Ngani Laumape</p>
<p>13. Vince Aso</p>
<p>14. Cory Jane</p>
<p>15. Beauden Barrett</p>
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<p>Reserves: 16. Leni Apisai (Pending Concussion) 17. Reggie Goodes 18. Loni Uhila 19. Brad Shields (Pending Finger) 20. Callum Gibbins 21. Te Toiroa Tahuriorangi 22. James Marshall 23. Willis Halaholo</p> -
Don't know how they managed to win that. Blues had all the ball in the final quarter. Both teams have massive potential but are raw as hell. The Blues in particular will severely fark someone up if they get things to click.
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<div>A few stats that stood out to me.</div>
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<div><strong><u>Running Metres</u></strong></div>
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<div>Blues - 534m</div>
<div>Hurricanes - 248m</div>
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<div><u><strong>Beaten Defenders</strong></u></div>
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<div>Blues - 36</div>
<div>Hurricanes - 16</div>
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<div><strong><u>Clean Breaks</u></strong></div>
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<div>Blues - 14</div>
<div>Hurricanes - 4</div>
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<div><strong><u>Offloads</u></strong></div>
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<div>Blues - 22</div>
<div>Hurricanes - 4</div>
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<div>We needed to come away with more than 19 points with these sort of stats.</div>
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<div>We needed to be rewarded for our hard work, but came away with no points on too many of our attacking raids. Goal kicking, indiscipline and accuracy around the breakdown were our downfall last night.</div> -
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<p> HOwever, what really cheesed me off (and what no-one is talking about) was the Canes taking the blind side defender out of play to allow TJP to run through. We were blowing up about this at the ground, not sure why it hasn't been discussed.</p>
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<p>Then you know how Highlanders felt when Faumina did the same in game 1 that lead to a try. </p> -
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Disappointing Tana's fledgling career as a coach must surely be at risk.</p></blockquote>
Why?<br><br>
Man you Cantabs can be bitter piston wristed gibbons -
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<div>A few stats that stood out to me.</div>
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<div>We needed to come away with more than 19 points with these sort of stats.</div>
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<div>We needed to be rewarded for our hard work, but came away with no points on too many of our attacking raids. Goal kicking, indiscipline and accuracy around the breakdown were our downfall last night.</div>
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<p>Those are the stats of a team that should have won comfortably. Unfortunately the Blues squandered possession and territory with bad discipline.</p> -
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<p>Then you know how Highlanders felt when Faumina did the same in game 1 that lead to a try. </p>
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<p>Through the ruck vs on the side of a tackle for mine, but I may only have one eye :)</p> -
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<p>still havent worked out how opinions work huh Winger?</p>
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<p>Seen plenty of passes like the one to Li given, looked flat in real time to me (I even commented on the thread that if the pass was good it was a good try, so saw it as a line ball) clear forward on replay, but for me, the knock was clear, I saw in real time, replay made it clearer, again, I commented at the time in the thread.</p>
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<p>But still doesnt excuse the 60mins or so the Blues played with little enterprise or agression and allowed the canes to dictate terms.</p>
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<p>Was surprised Tana went to his bench in the dying 5 mins though, with the game in the balance, but guess it shows he trusts his entire squad, or wants to.</p>
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<p>By flat do you mean incompetent refs missing an obvious forward pass. Becasue if this try ahd been given it would have been a joke decision where the video ref should have been rested for a year or two</p>
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<p>Re the knock I don't agree. He went to pick the ball up and it never left his hand. And in real time it looked perfectly ok. I agree with the video ref on this and he should be commended for making two correct decisions. (and I have agreed with poor "marginal" calls that my team have benefited from in the past but not this one)</p> -
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<p>Based on the injuries this would be my side for next week. I would also give Otere Black a crack at 10 on his home patch against the Force and switch Barrett to Fullback.</p>
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<p>1. Chris Eves</p>
<p>2. Dane Coles</p>
<p>3. Jeff Toomaga Allen</p>
<p>4. Blade Thomson</p>
<p>5. Mark Abbott</p>
<p>6. Vaea Fifita</p>
<p>7. Ardie Savea</p>
<p>8. Victor Vito</p>
<p>9. TJ Perenara</p>
<p>10. Otere Black</p>
<p>11. Julian Savea</p>
<p>12. Ngani Laumape</p>
<p>13. Vince Aso</p>
<p>14. Cory Jane</p>
<p>15. Beauden Barrett</p>
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<p>Reserves: 16. Leni Apisai (Pending Concussion) 17. Reggie Goodes 18. Loni Uhila 19. Brad Shields (Pending Finger) 20. Callum Gibbins 21. Te Toiroa Tahuriorangi 22. James Marshall 23. Willis Halaholo</p>
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<p>Marshall has done nothing wrong and deserves to keep his FB sport. And with Barrett finally starting to find his feet again at first I would definitely leave him at first. But he need more work to control the game at first not to be shunted to FB. I would also rest Apisai regardless. He's only just turned 20 so why risk it if Coles is fit. The other young hooker has done a fine job when on.</p> -
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<p>By flat do you mean incompetent refs missing an obvious forward pass. Becasue if this try ahd been given it would have been a joke decision where the video ref should have been rested for a year or two</p>
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<p>Re the knock I don't agree. He went to pick the ball up and it never left his hand. And in real time it looked perfectly ok. I agree with the video ref on this and he should be commended for making two correct decisions. (and I have agreed with poor "marginal" calls that my team have benefited from in the past but not this one)</p>
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<p>well I have the same view that that TMO needs a rest after a poor call like that, the ball rolled forward on the ground, same situation where you maintain contact with the ball but it touches another player, you have lost control of the ball.</p>
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<p>Anyway, as I said elsewhere, agree to disagree (cos we know arguing with you is a pointless exercise anyway)</p>
