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    @junior said in All Blacks vs Springboks II:

    @nevorian said in All Blacks vs Springboks II:

    @kev said in All Blacks vs Springboks II:

    Who was calling the lineouts? Whomever had a shit game.

    Looked like Boks almost knew our calls

    Well it was fairly obvious we would be throwing a lot of ball to two after last week's line out woes

    Poor throwing by Aumua. In Kitshoff steal he didn’t have to jump.

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    @nta said in All Blacks vs Springboks II:

    @nevorian said in All Blacks vs Springboks II:

    @kev said in All Blacks vs Springboks II:

    Who was calling the lineouts? Whomever had a shit game.

    Looked like Boks almost knew our calls

    Nope. They just mark up on your second rowers at 4-6+ and let you have front ball to let the pod at the front stop your maul. They did it against us as well. Later in the game they'd swap Etzebeth to the front to disrupt your 2 ball when it was obviously the go-to.

    What the fucking hell was happening with Kitshoff won the ball at the front, i don't know. Terrible execution.

    Aumua threw ball straight to him. No mystery.

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    @pakman said in All Blacks vs Springboks II:

    @nta said in All Blacks vs Springboks II:

    @nevorian said in All Blacks vs Springboks II:

    @kev said in All Blacks vs Springboks II:

    Who was calling the lineouts? Whomever had a shit game.

    Looked like Boks almost knew our calls

    Nope. They just mark up on your second rowers at 4-6+ and let you have front ball to let the pod at the front stop your maul. They did it against us as well. Later in the game they'd swap Etzebeth to the front to disrupt your 2 ball when it was obviously the go-to.

    What the fucking hell was happening with Kitshoff won the ball at the front, i don't know. Terrible execution.

    Aumua threw ball straight to him. No mystery.

    I guess my point was: why no jump at all? Take the prop out of the equation and make sure he can't touch you

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    @nta In second half Bok forwards, one scrum apart, didn’t boss ABs in set piece. Lost lineouts were down more to poor throws.
    In third quarter from phase play, when ABs did have ball, Boks chaperoned backs on open side into running away from cleaners and back towards Quagga/Marx. Crying out for a kick from BB to vary play. Or big munter running hard line.
    Fourth quarter ABs worked the blind and with Blackadder getting promptly to rucks Qwagga was less effective and the points flowed.
    I think it was a mistake to swap out BB at the 65, albeit ABs mainly played more structured game thereafter.

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    Game management by Steyn in the last 10 minutes was absolutely superb. He looks like he couldn't run to the dairy for a pie but he sure can kick and knows how to close out a game, in the opposition 22!

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    @old-samurai-jack said in All Blacks vs Springboks II:

    Game management by Steyn in the last 10 minutes was absolutely superb. He looks like he couldn't run to the dairy for a pie but he sure can kick and knows how to close out a game, in the opposition 22!

    Certainly gave us a lesson

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    I wouldn’t necessarily be surprised if blackadder overtakes ioane. These last 2 tests really weren’t Akiras finest hour. Blackadder is a very handy line out option too.

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    @berniescorner said in All Blacks vs Springboks II:

    @act-crusader You taking the piss?

    Of that I am sure! ACT Crusader meant to say "I wouldn’t pick one non-Crusader in a combined AB/Bok side"

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    @billy-tell said in All Blacks vs Springboks II:

    I wouldn’t necessarily be surprised if blackadder overtakes ioane. These last 2 tests really weren’t Akiras finest hour. Blackadder is a very handy line out option too.

    He has a big motor that is for sure

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    @canefan said in All Blacks vs Springboks II:

    @billy-tell said in All Blacks vs Springboks II:

    I wouldn’t necessarily be surprised if blackadder overtakes ioane. These last 2 tests really weren’t Akiras finest hour. Blackadder is a very handy line out option too.

    He has a big motor that is for sure

    Very different players which is good. I'd be happy to rotate 6s for different types of games rather than wear one out (Kaino perhaps a little?)
    To me Dalton and Blackadder are quite similar but at least one of them should be on the field. If a fit and inform Cane returns that just adds more options. 8 is still a mystery, I like both Luke J and Sotutu but either may be works in progress..

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    @billy-tell said in All Blacks vs Springboks II:

    I wouldn’t necessarily be surprised if blackadder overtakes ioane. These last 2 tests really weren’t Akiras finest hour. Blackadder is a very handy line out option too.

    Not really in competition. Blackadder for me a 7/utility, so Paps the comparator. Akira was ABs best line out forward from 36-66. More the issue of 8, but Ardie was good there in last 20.

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    The ref shat the bed last night. We need consistency for the whole match. Some refs become reluctant to award a final penalty unless something really obvious happens. Last night we saw the opposite, the ref looked for penalties in the closing moments. What he let pass during the match, suddenly became penalties in the last 5 for both teams. Panicked!

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    @nzzp said in All Blacks vs Springboks II:

    ... and the Boks are back to No 1.

    Wish we played them last year 🙂

    Me too.

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    @nta Boet honestly PSdT and Kolbey are world class.

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    @old-samurai-jack I haven't gone back to look, did Vermuelen even get his hands on the ball for that penultimate penalty?

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    Ardie was heroic from the base of the scrum when we were going backwards. Don’t think I would be confident in Luke or Hoskins in the same situation.

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    @bones said in All Blacks vs Springboks II:

    @old-samurai-jack I haven't gone back to look, did Vermuelen even get his hands on the ball for that penultimate penalty?

    Not sure but I thought the offside penalty under the sticks was marginal. Reserve scrummie Jantjies kinda double pumped and Ofa went on the pick up as he is entitled to do.

    In saying that Ofa is kind of a liability. He should start or not make the 23 at all.

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    @frye said in All Blacks vs Springboks II:

    In saying that Ofa is kind of a liability. He should start or not make the 23 at all.

    Other than Taukieaho, do we have a front rower that's not a liability?

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    @bones I liked the look of Lomax in the earlier game. And I was hoping to see De Groot again, but yes the front row doesn't look to be a strength.

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