All Blacks vs Springboks I
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@taniwharugby said in All Blacks vs Springboks I:
@chimoaus if prior to set piece and a prop or hooker it doesn't make it as simple
Yeah, makes it difficult, I 'don't know the answer but I hope they can figure it out. Are there any refs who call bullshit more than others?
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@rancid-schnitzel said in All Blacks vs Springboks I:
@no-quarter said in All Blacks vs Springboks I:
I have no problem with the way the Boks play, and do not want to see all teams trying to play exactly the same game plan.
This game was a great contrast in style, and it wasn't crap because of the Boks, it was crap because we just continued to drop the bloody ball leading to stoppage after stoppage which played into their hands. We just have to be a damn sight more accurate.
I have no problem with them playing that way because it makes them much more beatable. Shit we beat them yesterday and could barely string 3 phases together. They can be insanely good when they play proper rugby and the shit they can do can be downright scary at times. If they want to play within themselves and deliver this dross then so be it.
You spelled passes wrong
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@mn5 said in All Blacks vs Springboks I:
@steven-harris said in All Blacks vs Springboks I:
@machpants biggest mystery is how Bridge got 4, probably about 3 more than i would have given him .
Great to see Blackadder rate so high, thought he was one of our better forwards.
If i had seen these ratings before knowing the score, i would have thought the worst …will take this result every day of the week and twice on Sunday ..
And besides its 36 wins to the Boks, 4 x draws ,and 60 wins to the good guys , thats a decent win rate .The Boks had more wins prior to
their isolationneutral referees didn’t they ? Fair to say the ABs have done a bit better in th pro era.FIFY
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@taniwharugby said in All Blacks vs Springboks I:
Another thing to show the ref had no feel for the game was how often he was in the way of players running or passing or they had to adjust what they were doing with him in thier line or peripheral.
I said it during the game, he was a great lazy runner. I'm surprised he didn't get hit with a pass. Maybe that was how bad TJs pass was that he didn't hit him...
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Congrats to ABs on the pretty tense win 👍🏻 Jordie really played very well. Blackadder was a pretty busy guy too. Siya Kwagga and Eben were great for us I thought and generally our forwards looked better than Oz games. Lots of errors both sides and neither team really got control going. Surprised it didn’t open up at least a bit in last 20 or so and automaton kicking right to the death was just weird…umm STUPID... Wonder what lineup changes we will have for last one… Surely there will be a lot now and hopefully a very different game awaits …🤞🏻
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@mantissanet I think they should start Jantjies and give Pollard a rest.
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@mantissanet said in All Blacks vs Springboks I:
Congrats to ABs on the pretty tense win 👍🏻 Jordie really played very well. Blackadder was a pretty busy guy too. Siya Kwagga and Eben were great for us I thought and generally our forwards looked better than Oz games. Lots of errors both sides and neither team really got control going. Surprised it didn’t open up at least a bit in last 20 or so and automaton kicking right to the death was just weird…umm STUPID... Wonder what lineup changes we will have for last one… Surely there will be a lot now and hopefully a very different game awaits …🤞🏻
Didn't mind seeing him dragged.
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@act-crusader or allow Pollard to play. He has been restricted in the Springbok environment but I guess they can claim a WC.
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I didn't see this, wonder if it was a thing:
I urge you to watch the game video at 4’44” on the clock. Bridge went up and won an attacking kick off Vermeulen and the bulky number 8 “accidentally” landed his knee on Bridge’s head. That’s something that is not spoken about with the Springbok kicking plan, they often put the catcher through the thresher. A minute later he made a meal of a high ball from de Klerk to gift a five-pointer for Nkosi, continued dropping them in the 26th and 54th minute. Had some decent running meres; 55 of 9 carries.
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@booboo said in All Blacks vs Springboks I:
@rancid-schnitzel said in All Blacks vs Springboks I:
@no-quarter said in All Blacks vs Springboks I:
I have no problem with the way the Boks play, and do not want to see all teams trying to play exactly the same game plan.
This game was a great contrast in style, and it wasn't crap because of the Boks, it was crap because we just continued to drop the bloody ball leading to stoppage after stoppage which played into their hands. We just have to be a damn sight more accurate.
I have no problem with them playing that way because it makes them much more beatable. Shit we beat them yesterday and could barely string 3 phases together. They can be insanely good when they play proper rugby and the shit they can do can be downright scary at times. If they want to play within themselves and deliver this dross then so be it.
You spelled passes wrong
That too. Some of those moves were far too fancy for their own good. Another Foster speciality.
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@taniwharugby said in All Blacks vs Springboks I:
@victor-meldrew said in All Blacks vs Springboks I:
A poor AB performance but we dogged a win when we really didn't deserve
So SA deserved to win?
Think there's a pretty good case to say that when you look at the scoreline. Their tactics were limited, we knew what they would be, and yet we struggled badly - and they made fewer mistakes than us
Neither team deserved the win, but someone had to, was poor enough from us it won't paper over any cracks either.
Yep totally agree. Shedloads of stuff to be worked on.
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@steven-harris said in All Blacks vs Springboks I:
If there’s one thing that came out of tonights game for the All Blacks Jordie Barrett is your number 1 fullback moving forward.
Not even a debateYeah - that's the big takeaway from the game.
Blackadder definitely worth his place in the squad is the other.
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De Allender passed the ball once for the match. Am passed the ball once for the match. Faf passed it half the number of times that TJP did.
Boks had 52% possession for the match.
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@act-crusader said in All Blacks vs Springboks I:
De Allender passed the ball once for the match. Am passed the ball once for the match. Faf passed it half the number of times that TJP did.
Boks had 52% possession for the match.
How many times did they receive the ball?
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@act-crusader said in All Blacks vs Springboks I:
De Allender passed the ball once for the match. Am passed the ball once for the match. Faf passed it half the number of times that TJP did.
Boks had 52% possession for the match.
Must be shit being a bok wing right now. Chasing kicks and tackling
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@booboo said in All Blacks vs Springboks I:
@nostrildamus said in All Blacks vs Springboks I:
So how can we prepare for next week via selections? Not that many choices. I imaginge Foster would face a bit of pressure if he picks Bridge to start again but he did keep him on the paddock a bit longer than I expected.
He's not my favourite player and he had a shocker especially in the area of expertise in which he was picked.
But I'd kind of back him to sort that and keep him there as the Bok tactics aren't changing.
He should have been dragged last night, not Jordan, but I can see him playing again next week.
Yes well he is obviously not my fave playe either, but um, would Reece's better ability to um score tries and get go forward outweigh his height differential and um also questionable high ball material? I don't know if there is that much aerial difference actually, the Bok wingers aren't Ardie-height.
What I do get upset about is when Foster said a game or two back that Bridge wasn't happy with his game and he maybe wasn't playing at 100%. Well if he is slightly injured don't play him, you muppet!*He ain't that good!
Rant over.
*You as in Foster.
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@act-crusader said in All Blacks vs Springboks I:
De Allender passed the ball once for the match. Am passed the ball once for the match. Faf passed it half the number of times that TJP did.
Boks had 52% possession for the match.
Given the speed of his passing and the position of the Boks maybe TJP should have kicked it more?