All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe 1 Eden Park 7th Aug
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I think that starting 15 is maybe 1 or 2 players away from our best 15, but some of our tactics leave alot to be desired.
Our disipline is getting worse, just dumb shit, not even close to 50/50 calls falling our way, just clear infringing.
Players dont look like they fully trust one another or the systems on defence, we had a great 20 mins where we played a bit straighter and simply, then we emptied the bench and let aus back into the game.
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@gunner said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe 1 Eden Park 7th Aug:
Let’s see if Foster learns from his poor substitution tactics tonight? I doubt it.
Jordie to the wing - total waste of a sub. He was poor as a starting winger, what made Foster think he’d add anything to that position off the bench?
Subbing Akira who was arguably our best forward, smacks of a pre-meditated plan. Grow some balls and sub Ardie if he’s the least effective of the loose trio.
Then putting most of the bench on within a few minutes, lost all our momentum.
Oh how spoilt were we when our bench would come on and tear teams apart in the last 20.
sigh
I like Ardie but he's best as a 7 against the top sides as far as I can see.
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@chris said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe 1 Eden Park 7th Aug:
@sparky said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe 1 Eden Park 7th Aug:
Postives: Smith still great, Paps awesome, Whitelock a good leader, Havili and AB beginning to gel, Bower better than expected.
And RM
That miss on defence means you can't say he had a good game. That was truely below AB level.
Good goalkicking and a well taken try (and almost set up a pearler) but that was terrible defence.
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This is a pretty ordinary Wallaby team that managed to make a supposedly Rolls Royce All Black side look exceedingly mediocre.
Plagued by poor discipline and no discernible sign of a game plan (particularly after the subs came on), the home team looked formless, directionless and utterly lacking in confidence.
When you consider Foster took this team from the cream of five NZ super rugby franchises who beat their Australian counterparts in 23 out of 25 games in the trans- Ta$man competition, you can only conclude that the issue is mediocre coaching, or worse.
Foster, like Hilary Clinton, was given the top job simply because it was his ‘turn’. He clearly has no ideas, and judging by what we have seen so far, has failed to win the confidence or trust of the players.
My verdict? Dead man walking.
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@majorrage said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe 1 Eden Park 7th Aug:
Oz unstoppable once they couldn’t win.
maaate that’s the Aussie fighting spirit.
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@bones said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe 1 Eden Park 7th Aug:
@sparky said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe 1 Eden Park 7th Aug:
Shite Aussie goalkicking saved our arses tonight.
Sliding doors
It really is, because looking at the overall stats, the Oz team was overall a bit better (except for the lineout).
They had 54% possession and nearly 60% territory, with 4 clean breaks to our 3, 8 offloads to our 3, higher percentage of ruck wins, and fewer turnovers conceded. They tackled slightly better than us too (86% versus 85%) too.
We had 21 defenders beaten to their 19, and we smashed their lineout (100% versus 83%)
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@bones said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe 1 Eden Park 7th Aug:
@sparky said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe 1 Eden Park 7th Aug:
Shite Aussie goalkicking saved our arses tonight.
Sliding doors
The goal posts certainly looked like sliding doors for their kickers tonight.
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@his-bobness said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe 1 Eden Park 7th Aug:
This is a pretty ordinary Wallaby team that managed to make a supposedly Rolls Royce All Black side look exceedingly mediocre.
Plagued by poor discipline and no discernible sign of a game plan (particularly after the subs came on), the home team looked formless, directionless and utterly lacking in confidence.
When you consider Foster took this team from the cream of five NZ super rugby franchises who beat their Australian counterparts in 23 out of 25 games in the trans- Ta$man competition, you can only conclude that the issue is mediocre coaching, or worse.
Foster, like Hilary Clinton, was given the top job simply because it was his ‘turn’. He clearly has no ideas, and judging by what we have seen so far, has failed to win the confidence or trust of the players.
My verdict? Dead man walking.
According to who ? Are you new here ?
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@mn5 said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe 1 Eden Park 7th Aug:
@his-bobness said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe 1 Eden Park 7th Aug:
This is a pretty ordinary Wallaby team that managed to make a supposedly Rolls Royce All Black side look exceedingly mediocre.
Plagued by poor discipline and no discernible sign of a game plan (particularly after the subs came on), the home team looked formless, directionless and utterly lacking in confidence.
When you consider Foster took this team from the cream of five NZ super rugby franchises who beat their Australian counterparts in 23 out of 25 games in the trans- Ta$man competition, you can only conclude that the issue is mediocre coaching, or worse.
Foster, like Hilary Clinton, was given the top job simply because it was his ‘turn’. He clearly has no ideas, and judging by what we have seen so far, has failed to win the confidence or trust of the players.
My verdict? Dead man walking.
According to who ? Are you new here ?
That would be the Rolls Royce who made those jet engines.
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@mn5 said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe 1 Eden Park 7th Aug:
@his-bobness said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe 1 Eden Park 7th Aug:
This is a pretty ordinary Wallaby team that managed to make a supposedly Rolls Royce All Black side look exceedingly mediocre.
Plagued by poor discipline and no discernible sign of a game plan (particularly after the subs came on), the home team looked formless, directionless and utterly lacking in confidence.
When you consider Foster took this team from the cream of five NZ super rugby franchises who beat their Australian counterparts in 23 out of 25 games in the trans- Ta$man competition, you can only conclude that the issue is mediocre coaching, or worse.
Foster, like Hilary Clinton, was given the top job simply because it was his ‘turn’. He clearly has no ideas, and judging by what we have seen so far, has failed to win the confidence or trust of the players.
My verdict? Dead man walking.
According to who ? Are you new here ?
Must be talking about the plane engines that got grounded...
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@gunner said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe 1 Eden Park 7th Aug:
Let’s see if Foster learns from his poor substitution tactics tonight? I doubt it.
Jordie to the wing - total waste of a sub. He was poor as a starting winger, what made Foster think he’d add anything to that position off the bench?
Subbing Akira who was arguably our best forward, smacks of a pre-meditated plan. Grow some balls and sub Ardie if he’s the least effective of the loose trio.
Then putting most of the bench on within a few minutes, lost all our momentum.
Oh how spoilt were we when our bench would come on and tear teams apart in the last 20.
sigh
On this, Imagine if we could have put on Blackadder instead and further strengthened our defense around the fringes? If we must play Mo'unga, Barrett, and Dmac, use that advantage on the bench ffs.
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@mn5 I’ve been on this site for 20 years chum. I said ‘supposedly’ because the Wallabies weren’t given a show by either the pundits or the punters. So I have to assume you can neither read nor count.
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@gt12 said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe 1 Eden Park 7th Aug:
@kiwimurph said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe 1 Eden Park 7th Aug:
@chimoaus said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe 1 Eden Park 7th Aug:
What was the penalty count in the end, seemed like a very stop start game.
I think I heard 17-9.
ESPN has 18-9. Jesus.
I wonder how you have a free flowing game with 27 penalties. It is tough as players are always pushing the boundaries but I feel as a spectacle the excessive whistleblowing let's it down.
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@his-bobness said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe 1 Eden Park 7th Aug:
This is a pretty ordinary Wallaby team that managed to make a supposedly Rolls Royce All Black side look exceedingly mediocre.
This describes Wallaby wins over ABs under Henry and Hansen.
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Drew with far more incisive comments than Sonny IMO, even if he doesn't quite cut the same athletic figure he did just a few short years ago..
NB if Sonny is a keen rugby fan like he says, why did he keep leaving?
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@sparky said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe 1 Eden Park 7th Aug:
Boks will rip us apart if we play like this against them.
Nooooooooo, not those Boks again.
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@his-bobness said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe 1 Eden Park 7th Aug:
When you consider Foster took this team from the cream of five NZ super rugby franchises who beat their Australian counterparts in 23 out of 25 games in the trans- Ta$man competition, you can only conclude that the issue is mediocre coaching, or worse.
That is pretty hard to argue against. Rennie is obviously the better coach, judging purely by his track record (taking over the mediocre Chiefs from Foster and immediately winning back to back SR titles, not to mention dominating with the NZ U20s). I would love for them to switch teams.
