Hurricanes v Blues
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@taniwharugby I was surprised the Canes did not use the Referees challenge especially on the Otere Black Pass , it looked forward out of the hand , line ball at best ..
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@steven-harris I havent really looked at that rule, how far back are they allowed to go on it?
Although when possession changes hands is that classed a phase, given that was more like a long sequence of play than multiple phases.
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@steven-harris I can think of at least two reasons: 1. Ardie is inexperienced as a captain and 2. he wasn't sure and didn't want to risk losing his only challenge so early in the game.
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@stargazer , I suspect had Nock taken the return pass and scored , they may have looked at it , so just the fact it was turned over a d the play continuing..felt for Flanders with the pass , What was Blackwell thinking ..?, he threw his hand as to catch it then pulled it away , which totally threw Fifita ..story of the night those 2
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@winger said in Hurricanes v Blues:
@tim said in Hurricanes v Blues:
The second Hansen era was mostly a disaster, but perhaps the weirdest thing about it was the regular selection of Fifita, a player who at best had all the flaws that Ioane was criticised for, when Hansen wouldn't have a bar of Akira Ioane - who was always significantly better than Fifita.
The psychology and failings of Hansen were really strange.
Wasn't Akira dropped from the starting lineup by the Blues just last year? And Fifita was hardly a regular selection
Nope, they were getting him fit and his head right after the tough year he had previously. Leon talked about it often and the way they used him showed it was the right approach.
But back to Hansen, he singled out Akira while selecting player with worse flaws and lower ceilings. 2020 showed how wrong he was.
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wonder what Reiko said to Laumape early on, Laumape kept mouthing something and giving the old nod for a good 30 sec after.
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@taniwharugby said in Hurricanes v Blues:
wonder what Reiko said to Laumape early on, Laumape kept mouthing something and giving the old nod for a good 30 sec after.
Not keeping your cool after some verbals is another tick in not ready for Test match column
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@kirwan said in Hurricanes v Blues:
@taniwharugby said in Hurricanes v Blues:
wonder what Reiko said to Laumape early on, Laumape kept mouthing something and giving the old nod for a good 30 sec after.
Not keeping your cool after some verbals is another tick in not ready for Test match column
You're talking about Reiko right?
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@bones said in Hurricanes v Blues:
@kirwan said in Hurricanes v Blues:
@taniwharugby said in Hurricanes v Blues:
wonder what Reiko said to Laumape early on, Laumape kept mouthing something and giving the old nod for a good 30 sec after.
Not keeping your cool after some verbals is another tick in not ready for Test match column
You're talking about Reiko right?
Who is Reiko?
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@kiwimurph said in Hurricanes v Blues:
@bones said in Hurricanes v Blues:
@kirwan said in Hurricanes v Blues:
@taniwharugby said in Hurricanes v Blues:
wonder what Reiko said to Laumape early on, Laumape kept mouthing something and giving the old nod for a good 30 sec after.
Not keeping your cool after some verbals is another tick in not ready for Test match column
You're talking about Reiko right?
Who is Reiko?
Arika's brother.
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@bones said in Hurricanes v Blues:
@kirwan said in Hurricanes v Blues:
@taniwharugby said in Hurricanes v Blues:
wonder what Reiko said to Laumape early on, Laumape kept mouthing something and giving the old nod for a good 30 sec after.
Not keeping your cool after some verbals is another tick in not ready for Test match column
You're talking about Reiko right?
It was Reiko (or Rieko) that lost his cool a bit. Laumape was smiling about it (if its the same incident). But far from anything signifiant
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@winger said in Hurricanes v Blues:
@bones said in Hurricanes v Blues:
@kirwan said in Hurricanes v Blues:
@taniwharugby said in Hurricanes v Blues:
wonder what Reiko said to Laumape early on, Laumape kept mouthing something and giving the old nod for a good 30 sec after.
Not keeping your cool after some verbals is another tick in not ready for Test match column
You're talking about Reiko right?
It was Reiko (or Rieko) that lost his cool a bit. Laumape was smiling about it (if its the same incident). But far from anything signifiant
Point is, they're both hotheads but only one of them is commonly involved in scuffles/exchanges and it's not Mr Dusrispeck. Pretty ridiculous to try and say that makes Laumape not ready for test rugby...
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@bones said in Hurricanes v Blues:
@winger said in Hurricanes v Blues:
@bones said in Hurricanes v Blues:
@kirwan said in Hurricanes v Blues:
@taniwharugby said in Hurricanes v Blues:
wonder what Reiko said to Laumape early on, Laumape kept mouthing something and giving the old nod for a good 30 sec after.
Not keeping your cool after some verbals is another tick in not ready for Test match column
You're talking about Reiko right?
It was Reiko (or Rieko) that lost his cool a bit. Laumape was smiling about it (if its the same incident). But far from anything signifiant
Point is, they're both hotheads but only one of them is commonly involved in scuffles/exchanges and it's not Mr Dusrispeck. Pretty ridiculous to try and say that makes Laumape not ready for test rugby...
Agree. And he will never live that down (Mr Dusrispeck). I assume he mean't that people were criticizing him on the rugby field and this was his reply.
But hes not a hothead. Far from it. Perenara yes. Coles as well. Rieko maybe. But not Laumape/
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@tim said in Hurricanes v Blues:
The second Hansen era was mostly a disaster, but perhaps the weirdest thing about it was the regular selection of Fifita, a player who at best had all the flaws that Ioane was criticised for, when Hansen wouldn't have a bar of Akira Ioane - who was always significantly better than Fifita.
The psychology and failings of Hansen were really strange.
Not a Fifita fan by any means, but to be fair he probably was ahead of Akira because he covered lock. As for Akira, I have been a huge crtic, was pleased with what he did last year, and stoked he seems to be keeping it up this year, and we seemingly starting to see what he is capable of. Still makes no difference to past years, he wasn't near international standard then, even he says he was pretty crap in head. I always though he used to play like someone who ran over kids at 1st 15 level and thought that's all he had to do, spmeone has helped him turn corner.
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I will say after my last post, I am beginning to worry about Laumape, I know I had discussion with someone on here about him, and saying he shouldn't need to be disrespected to get stuck in, he seemed a little lost again, I hope he not going a little like Akira was, thinking an occasional big game is good enough?
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@dan54 said in Hurricanes v Blues:
I will say after my last post, I am beginning to worry about Laumape, I know I had discussion with someone on here about him, and saying he shouldn't need to be disrespected to get stuck in, he seemed a little lost again, I hope he not going a little like Akira was, thinking an occasional big game is good enough?
I had high hopes for Laumape - you can't see many 12s around with his physical attributes. Could use some coaching in passing though.
Seriously, though, who are the contenders? THey don't look dominant:
Plummer (hoping for a great season, but not there yet
P Tomkinson
Goodhue (better at 13)
McLeod (aka who?)the cupboard is pretty bare. Love TJ Faiane to bits at Super/Mitre10, but not big enough for tests I fear
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@nzzp ALB is best NZ 12 for me. Actually I might play ALB and Jack Goodhue as left and right midfielders, then Reiko Ioane or Peter Umaga-Jensen as the replacement off the bench.
Caleb Clarke might eventually be a 12 but looks a handful on the left wing for now.
In terms of Laumape, he looks a lot better behind a dominant pack. He's a worth a place in the AB squad but wouldn't be my first-choice starter at 12.
