Future of The Rugby Championship
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If you are a fan, would you prefer a weekend in Rome or a weekend in Johannesburg?
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@Bovidae some have suggest they would play some home games in spain and home fans would be happy watch on tv
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@Kiwiwomble said in Future of The Rugby Championship:
@Bovidae some have suggest they would play some home games in spain and home fans would be happy watch on tv
Well, that is pure nonsense I've seen sprouted for Argentina, Fiji, and now South Africa.
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I just hope a Nation's Championship can happen, would love to play the top teams every year. As for TRC, hopefully that can work within the Nation's Champ somehow. I can't see why we can't play SA, Aus, Arg twice and the other 6 teams once. Gives us 12 tests a year. Plus 1 vs a tier 2 before TRC.
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@Bovidae said in Future of The Rugby Championship:
If you are a fan, would you prefer a weekend in Rome or a weekend in Johannesburg?
You're more likely to see a decent rugby match in Jo'burg.
You're more likely to get absorbed by history in Rome.You're quite likely to get mugged in both of them.
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I don't think Italy can be replaced, though, anyway.
Tournament is owned by Six Nations Rugby Ltd. Tried to google ownership structure but to no avail.
But if single 6 Nations team could veto promotion-relegation in 6 Nations (and by proxy veto proposed Nations League), then assume same applies for kicking them out of a tournament they partly own for a shiny new play thing. Would need to be bought out.
So, expansion is only realistic option.
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Apparently the Saffas are getting paid for the RC despite stitching us all up.
They can just fuck off, imo. Get japan in.
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@Rapido said in Future of The Rugby Championship:
So, expansion is only realistic option.
Add Saffas and Georgia and make it 8 Nations!
The Tractor Factory will provide a bit of competition for Italy and they're probably sick of kicking the shit out of Romania, Germany, and Spain in the 2nd Div comp anyway.
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@Derpus said in Future of The Rugby Championship:
Apparently the Saffas are getting paid for the RC despite stitching us all up.
Players? SARU for TV rights? Whose getting paid for what?
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@Snowy https://www.rugbyrocks.com/sa-rugby-to-earn-r130-million-despite-boks-withdrawal
Don't know the specifics and it could be bullshit (looks pretty clickbaity). I've heard other anecdotal stuff that they'll still earn under the SANZAAR agreement.
But, yeah, apparently they won't take that much of a financial hit for not showing.
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Wouldn't surprise me.
"This is due to a collective bargaining agreement that guaranteed all four Sanzaar nations would benefit financially even if one was unable to attend the tournament for Covid-19 reasons."
If that is the actual agreement, firstly, they were all idiots to agree to that - show up or don't get paid.
Secondly "unable to attend" - really -"unable"? They might reconsider that if they weren't getting the cash anyway. No wonder relations are so strained between them all.Hopefully it is bullshit as it makes no sense.
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@Rapido said in Future of The Rugby Championship:
I don't think Italy can be replaced, though, anyway.
Tournament is owned by Six Nations Rugby Ltd. Tried to google ownership structure but to no vail.
But if single 6 Nations team could veto promotion-relegation in 6 Nations (and by proxy veto proposed Nations League), then assume same applies for kicking them out of a tournament they partly own for a shiny new play thing. Would need to be bought out.
So, expansion is only realistic option.
If you're prepared to pay they're available https://search.cro.ie/company/ListSubDocs.aspx?id=358420&type=C
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@KiwiMurph NICE
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@Tim said in Future of The Rugby Championship:
@KiwiMurph NICE
In other news, NH rugby said they don't want the springboks in their comp
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@Hooroo said in Future of The Rugby Championship:
@Tim said in Future of The Rugby Championship:
@KiwiMurph NICE
In other news, NH rugby said they don't want the springboks in their comp
Don't care how they ended up staying, but they are
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@Machpants said in Future of The Rugby Championship:
@Hooroo said in Future of The Rugby Championship:
@Tim said in Future of The Rugby Championship:
@KiwiMurph NICE
In other news, NH rugby said they don't want the springboks in their comp
Don't care how they ended up staying, but they are
Yeah it is good for SH rugby.
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That's great news for the future for NZ rugby.
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@Hooroo said in Future of The Rugby Championship:
NH rugby said they don't want the springboks in their comp
yeah that probably was a factor...oh well, think it is best result all round though!
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In a Covid world, the financial drawing power of the NH is cruelly declining.
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@cgrant said in Future of The Rugby Championship:
In a Covid world, the financial drawing power of the NH is
cruellydeclining as they fucking deserve.FIFY.
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It’s the best decision IMO. It retains robustness in the SH competitions and dies not further overcrowd the NH comps. Moreover and as far as the NH goes, is SA a financially sensible gamble? Maybe, but one I’d bet the house on, especially when you don’t need to.
Good outcome I reckon.
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Both NZR and SARU, and AR with respect to their Super teams, have shown that rugby agreements aren't worth the paper they're written on. So he might well be correct
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@Machpants
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@Machpants said in Future of The Rugby Championship:
@mofitzy_ oh I agree, I was just pointing out a ten year agreement doesn't mean spit
'as sound as an NRL contract'
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@mofitzy_ said in Future of The Rugby Championship:
@akan004
Strange he is doubling down when all international press says 10 years. Although having read his article, he has obviously got a few screws loose.Has for years.
Been a bit quiet in recent years.
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was it a success?
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@Rapido said in Future of The Rugby Championship:
was it a success?
well, Australia came last, that's pretty good
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One big positive would be far less travel for the players.
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although with SA back in, I'd be more inclined to just play one another 1 time, and if they really want another game, have a 1-2 play off and 3-4?
Or, is this where they bring in an Island side?
CReating a bye weekend helps reduce the impact of multiple games over consecutive weeks
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If, I know it's crazy talk, you read the article the CEO said that they now know it works in a single location. Not that a single location is an aim, just that you can do it if you need to
“Another positive from this competition has been the realisation from the members that if required in future years, the concept of a centralised TRC is very possible with the prospect of double-header rounds a huge benefit for the local fans and wider broadcast audience across the four geographies.”
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I like the idea of a centralized comp in one place with double headers. Give each member nation a defined year to host it, agreed in advance at the inception of the broadcast deal.
Either a straight 3 week tournament with no byes, or play twice over 7 weekends with the bye in the middle. No nonsense playoffs/finals pls, just a straight points table like the 6 Nations.
It's more like the RWC that way, so better preparation.
Hell, while you're at it add in Japan and a Pasfika side and make it triple headers. Then it becomes a 5 week tournament, or 6 with a bye weekend, exactly like the 6 Nations.
Basically the 6 Nations is the best tournament format, and they have the advantage of low travel. Having TRC all in one place each year makes it possible to mimic this successful format more closely.
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@Bones said in Future of The Rugby Championship:
@TeWaio yeah it's not a bad idea, although I think maybe to make it "come around" a bit quicker, perhaps 2 countries a year as hosts.
True, but how do you cluster them? Aus/NZ obviously works, but SA/Arg criss-crossing the Atlantic is still a lot of travel, are there even direct flights?
Pasifika side couldn't host out of the islands due to lack of infrastructure. And Japan is nowhere near any other the others.