Bledisloe Three: Sydney, 31 October
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@NTA yeah I know stats dont always tell the story.
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@Bones said in Bledisloe Three: Sydney, 31 October:
Random thoughts in no particular order.
Frizzel got stopped a few times eh, but really happy with his game. His workrate was immense, I'd be really interested in seeing stats for carries/tackles/rucks. In saying that, be interested to see what the other options can do now and if they'll be as amazeballs as all the Frizzel knockers think they'll be.
Topped the tackle count on both stats websites.
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@canefan said in Bledisloe Three: Sydney, 31 October:
@voodoo said in Bledisloe Three: Sydney, 31 October:
Man ANZ is a terrible stadium for fans.
The food is a fucking disgrace. Every single outlet sells the same shit - pies, chips, and hotdogs. You couldn't even get a pizza if you wanted, let alone some noodles or sushi or a decent burger. Imagine all the Asian cafe/restaurant owners who would love a crack at setting up in one of the kitchen to roll out awesome noodle/rice dishes at HT, could all be pre-prepared, pre-ordered, pre-paid for easy collection at HT.
At HT I queued up at one of the coffee bars for 15mins to get the kids a hot chocolate, only to be told they don't do hot chocolates. Only positive there was that I missed the Wallaby try, and if I didn't see it it didn't happen... 👊
I see the attendance was only 26k, thats pretty disappointing even given the weather.
Not much different from grounds in NZ, where the peak culinary offering is probably a Fritz's weiner
I had delicious Vietnamese a couple of years ago at Bay Oval, although it was the summer.
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@ACT-Crusader said in Bledisloe Three: Sydney, 31 October:
@Bones said in Bledisloe Three: Sydney, 31 October:
Random thoughts in no particular order.
Frizzel got stopped a few times eh, but really happy with his game. His workrate was immense, I'd be really interested in seeing stats for carries/tackles/rucks. In saying that, be interested to see what the other options can do now and if they'll be as amazeballs as all the Frizzel knockers think they'll be.
Topped the tackle count on both stats websites.
High up for carries as well. Is there anywhere that does breakdown stats?
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@KiwiMurph said in Bledisloe Three: Sydney, 31 October:
@pakman said in Bledisloe Three: Sydney, 31 October:
@NTA said in Bledisloe Three: Sydney, 31 October:
@pakman said in Bledisloe Three: Sydney, 31 October:
I was ambiguous. I meant alternative to Simmons at lock.
Trevor Hosea who is 20.
How’d you rate him?
He was impressive in Super Rugby Au. Good mobility and good physicality.
Might be with a try off bench?
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@Bones said in Bledisloe Three: Sydney, 31 October:
@ACT-Crusader said in Bledisloe Three: Sydney, 31 October:
@Bones said in Bledisloe Three: Sydney, 31 October:
Random thoughts in no particular order.
Frizzel got stopped a few times eh, but really happy with his game. His workrate was immense, I'd be really interested in seeing stats for carries/tackles/rucks. In saying that, be interested to see what the other options can do now and if they'll be as amazeballs as all the Frizzel knockers think they'll be.
Topped the tackle count on both stats websites.
High up for carries as well. Is there anywhere that does breakdown stats?
I just don't trust any of these stats, makes you wonder whose numbers the coaches use. For the fatties, I know they track closely dominant tackles , first 3 to breakdowns, repeat efforts, gain line breaches amongst other stuff.
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@DMX said in Bledisloe Three: Sydney, 31 October:
@taniwharugby said in Bledisloe Three: Sydney, 31 October:
@Machpants nah I reckon he knew he was on hhe wrong side and thought if he gave it to us he avoids a penalty.
On big Karl, yea looked like he is placing it back for the 9, which was pretty luck really cos if he doesnt score himself with 3 men outside....
I was just so happy when he caught the ball ! I think it would have been asking too much for him to pass as well!
Expect there’s still some nerves. Karl’s route to top hasn’t involved anywhere near as much top rugby as others. I think he was happy to catch, saw a massive hole which he took with aplomb, but wasn’t alert to what was outside him.
Had been training for battering ram role all week.
Hope they have a gentle word to him.
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@kev said in Bledisloe Three: Sydney, 31 October:
@pakman Tupou was just standing up at scrum time. Only refs that don’t know what they are doing will fall for that.
Noticed that a couple of times, and penalised for it once. But popped Hodgman into space once and that seemed more legal. What LHs try on THs all the time.
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@voodoo said in Bledisloe Three: Sydney, 31 October:
@Bones said in Bledisloe Three: Sydney, 31 October:
@ACT-Crusader said in Bledisloe Three: Sydney, 31 October:
@Bones said in Bledisloe Three: Sydney, 31 October:
Random thoughts in no particular order.
Frizzel got stopped a few times eh, but really happy with his game. His workrate was immense, I'd be really interested in seeing stats for carries/tackles/rucks. In saying that, be interested to see what the other options can do now and if they'll be as amazeballs as all the Frizzel knockers think they'll be.
Topped the tackle count on both stats websites.
High up for carries as well. Is there anywhere that does breakdown stats?
I just don't trust any of these stats, makes you wonder whose numbers the coaches use. For the fatties, I know they track closely dominant tackles , first 3 to breakdowns, repeat efforts, gain line breaches amongst other stuff.
Whether you trust them or not, feel free to use stats to back up your favourite player or make another one look like they are hopeless 😎
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@Siam said in Bledisloe Three: Sydney, 31 October:
I've gotten a bit sick of Perenara. He's not really improved with age and his skills look sloppy. Add in all the pr virtue signalling and goddy good image and all I want for Christmas is a decent halfback prospect
We all do except for TJP's White Knight, @canefan
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@junior said in Bledisloe Three: Sydney, 31 October:
@Siam said in Bledisloe Three: Sydney, 31 October:
I've gotten a bit sick of Perenara. He's not really improved with age and his skills look sloppy. Add in all the pr virtue signalling and goddy good image and all I want for Christmas is a decent halfback prospect
We all do except for TJP's White Knight, @canefan
At least TJP is doing a great job leading the haka
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@pakman said in Bledisloe Three: Sydney, 31 October:
@DMX said in Bledisloe Three: Sydney, 31 October:
@taniwharugby said in Bledisloe Three: Sydney, 31 October:
@Machpants nah I reckon he knew he was on hhe wrong side and thought if he gave it to us he avoids a penalty.
On big Karl, yea looked like he is placing it back for the 9, which was pretty luck really cos if he doesnt score himself with 3 men outside....
I was just so happy when he caught the ball ! I think it would have been asking too much for him to pass as well!
Expect there’s still some nerves. Karl’s route to top hasn’t involved anywhere near as much top rugby as others. I think he was happy to catch, saw a massive hole which he took with aplomb, but wasn’t alert to what was outside him.
Had been training for battering ram role all week.
Hope they have a gentle word to him.
The side step for someone of his geometry was something to behold but sure if he had fukked it up it could have been career ending
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@rotated said in Bledisloe Three: Sydney, 31 October:
@MrDenmore said in Bledisloe Three: Sydney, 31 October:
All Blacks seriously need some succession planning at halfback. The gap between Aaron Smith and the rest is that big.
Return to the status quo. Halfback has always been our weakest position historically.
It's been a treat having a Rolls Royce halfback for the better part of a decade after always being outmatched.
A good point. Springboks have regularly seemed to be strong at halfback. Aus also and maybe the europeans
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@pakman said in Bledisloe Three: Sydney, 31 October:
@kev said in Bledisloe Three: Sydney, 31 October:
@pakman Tupou was just standing up at scrum time. Only refs that don’t know what they are doing will fall for that.
Noticed that a couple of times, and penalised for it once. But popped Hodgman into space once and that seemed more legal. What LHs try on THs all the time.
Having only seen the replays on the big screen at the ground, I found it interesting that the ABs got a penalty for going forward well after Hodgman and Tupou both popped at one scrum, given the was a reset earlier. The old adage is that LHs drive up while THs drive down. But after a couple of actions any prop with his beer will decide how to play it depending on feel.
Having done a few referring courses the direction is generally to tick the boxes for safety (binding on the arm is an easy one to ping) then make a decision to prevent endless resets.
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@Crazy-Horse said in Bledisloe Three: Sydney, 31 October:
I am with @mariner4life. The ABs were gifted their points in the first half and when Aussie stood up for 30 odd minutes in the second half the ABs were rubbish. The result and record score is making the performance seem better than what it actually was.
I don’t believe in the term gifted. The Wallabies are professional sportsmen and they were outmuscled and out thought in that first half and they made some poor decisions but to say gifted suggests they had given up on the game
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After a rewatch, the ABs scrum fared much better when Hodgman and Lomax came in (or was it when Ala'atoa and Slipper went off ?). They won two penalties and there were no more resets. I don't remember who on this forum who wrote that Hodgman got monstered at least one time by Tupou. In that peculiar scrum, after being caught initially, Hodgman stood up and drove forward to win his contest against Tupou.
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@Crazy-Horse said in Bledisloe Three: Sydney, 31 October:
I am with @mariner4life. The ABs were gifted their points in the first half and when Aussie stood up for 30 odd minutes in the second half the ABs were rubbish. The result and record score is making the performance seem better than what it actually was.
You can only play the team in front of you. The improvement in the All Blacks measured in three games against the same opposition has been pretty damn good.
What was impressive was the execution in that first half.
