Bledisloe One: Wellington, October 11
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@MN5 said in Bledisloe One: Wellington, October 11:
@ACT-Crusader said in Bledisloe One: Wellington, October 11:
@KiwiMurph the Wallabies celebration after the Horwill try really irked.
Anyway we hit back the following week at Eden Park. We made quite a few changes too. Kahui moving to the wing, McCaw back. Kaino to blindside and Rodders to no8. Nonu and Conrad in the midfield. Cowan starting
Geez it's easy to forget he's a World Cup winner playing in that very position.
I'll never forget him flattening his shit head cousin
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@Machpants said in Bledisloe One: Wellington, October 11:
@MN5 said in Bledisloe One: Wellington, October 11:
@ACT-Crusader said in Bledisloe One: Wellington, October 11:
@KiwiMurph the Wallabies celebration after the Horwill try really irked.
Anyway we hit back the following week at Eden Park. We made quite a few changes too. Kahui moving to the wing, McCaw back. Kaino to blindside and Rodders to no8. Nonu and Conrad in the midfield. Cowan starting
Geez it's easy to forget he's a World Cup winner playing in that very position.
I'll never forget him flattening his shit head cousin
Yeah, but it was still a case of someone bigger ( not by much ) smashing someone in a vulnerable position.
In saying that I loved Richards work in black, shame he had to compete with our greatest centre combo of all time.
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@PecoTrain said in Bledisloe One: Wellington, October 11:
@Billy-Tell said in Bledisloe One: Wellington, October 11:
Mounga had a really poor game I thought given the weather. I also think goodhue should be 13 or not in the team. Best memory will be Clarke’s cameo. O for awesome. You’d have to think BB to 10 and JB to 15 for the next game.
On Mo'unga's bad/quiet game, only NTA has mentioned the late hits on him. I counted three times where RM was down in back play (Wilson's late hit, being clattered in the lead up to Reiko's non-try and then twice in the second half) after late hits in addition to the big hit early (11 mins?) from Toomua.
As for centres, haven't almost all of the AB's centre choices in recent years been forced by injuries? ALB/Laumape/SBW/Crotty all had injuries at various points during 2018 and 2019 while Reiko has only begun his move to centre in 2020. Goodhue has ended up in 12/13 by being available.
Well DC, AC and BB - indeed all test 10s - all had to deal with that at various stages of their time in the 10 jersey. If RM isn’t tough enough to shake off a couple of marginally late hits then perhaps he doesn’t have the minerals to be a test match 10
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@chimoaus said in Bledisloe One: Wellington, October 11:
@Bovidae Was this around the time RM was standing around the ruck looking like a virgin in an orgy?
He was standing in the pocket at least twice and then joined the ruck because I think TJP got stuck in a ruck.
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@ACT-Crusader You would have to question his standing in the team if they just ignored him, I highly doubt DC would have been ignored.
Yep TJ needed help. I remember yelling at the TV at this point saying what the fuck is RM doing at the ruck.
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@chimoaus said in Bledisloe One: Wellington, October 11:
@ACT-Crusader You would have to question his standing in the team if they just ignored him, I highly doubt DC would have been ignored.
I think you’re reading way to much into it especially that the best opportunity was the one where Sotutu was passing out but decided to go to Jordie. That didn’t make sense to me.
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@ACT-Crusader That ruck above was the perfect spot for a dg, but RM literally walked up to the ruck and does nothing.
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@chimoaus have you got the stills for before and after?
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@ACT-Crusader He basically walks up to the ruck, puts his hand on top of the wallaby then casually walks away. The next drive the ruck is directly under the posts. Its at this stage he should be demanding the ball to throw it over. WTF is he even doing at the ruck. The rest of the backline are out waiting.
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@ACT-Crusader said in Bledisloe One: Wellington, October 11:
@chimoaus have you got the stills for before and after?
Honestly stop defending him - if we don't have a halfback there to pass the ball back for the dropkick, it's not the job of the guy who's supposed to take the dropkick to go and play half back. You see the issue here, right?
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@chimoaus said in Bledisloe One: Wellington, October 11:
@ACT-Crusader He basically walks up to the ruck, puts his hand on top of the wallaby then casually walks away. The next drive the ruck is directly under the posts. Its at this stage he should be demanding the ball to throw it over. WTF is he even doing at the ruck. The rest of the backline are out waiting.
That last shot of the 4 (bottom right) is quite telling - look at the space behind the ruck, right in front of the posts, basically the perfect spot for him to casually knock it over.
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@junior said in Bledisloe One: Wellington, October 11:
@chimoaus said in Bledisloe One: Wellington, October 11:
@ACT-Crusader He basically walks up to the ruck, puts his hand on top of the wallaby then casually walks away. The next drive the ruck is directly under the posts. Its at this stage he should be demanding the ball to throw it over. WTF is he even doing at the ruck. The rest of the backline are out waiting.
That last shot of the 4 (bottom right) is quite telling - look at the space behind the ruck, right in front of the posts, basically the perfect spot for him to casually knock it over.
Like our failure in 2007 it has to be a failure of the onfield leadership group, its not up to Richie to call his own number
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@junior no need to defend him. Here’s how I saw it, 87th minute in the pocket. 87:50 in the pocket
So at the 88th minute they decided to keep it in the forwards and Richie comes in.
But by 88:20 he’s back in position for the drop goal. But they go wide.
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@ACT-Crusader said in Bledisloe One: Wellington, October 11:
So at the 88th minute they decided to keep it in the forwards and Richie comes in.
Does that not sound strange when you read that? The 10 joining the forwards at the ruck when the 9 is clearly there?
I guess it was possible that the call had been made to keep it in the forwards and he knew it was never coming to him. But still seems odd to me for the 10 to walk in like that instead of calling the shots behind the ruck. -
@Rapido said in Bledisloe One: Wellington, October 11:
@Crucial said in Bledisloe One: Wellington, October 11:
@NTA said in Bledisloe One: Wellington, October 11:
@ARHS said in Bledisloe One: Wellington, October 11:
I thought the crowd reaction at the fulltime whistle was absolutely disgraceful. Ashamed to be a kiwi from that. Both teams gave it all they had to go for a win - for 9 minutes beyond in a tight game. Fantastic effort players and officials.
Might be an unpopular thing to say here, but that kind of crowd behaviour is not unexpected from NZ these days. Anecdotally have heard it from many nationalities as I get around the club scene here in Sydney.
Don't know if it is a generational thing, but the level of boorishness in rugby crowds is generally increasing. Throw in the ABs success and it seems like some fans feel they've been given licence to think their nation owns the game.
I don't disagree with any of that but must say that a fair deal of the booing right at the end would have been reactionary. The excitement and entertainment they paid for was cut off by a decision to take a draw. I would have been disappointed and let out a groan as well.
I was there and I groaned when we knocked it on forcing a static defensive ruck on own line. That was when I knew the game was over and it was a draw. Good 30 seconds to to compose yourself before the actual final whistle. Chance to then acknowledge them emptying the tank for 8 extra minutes.
There is little rugby-intelligence in an NZ crowd anymore, IMO.
Barely anyone cheers or claps the little moments that creates or switches momentum or relieves danger; The bundle into touch, the perfect exit, the finger tip kick catch in swirling wind, a counter maul or hold up in the tackle, the driving maul. I'd say turnovers are the only thing acknowledged but only if it is a penalty turnover. An in-game turnover is probably too subtle for the morons to notice. Some of the crowd might also notice a lineout against the throw as it is obvious.
Just sit there and wait for a try or for the music. There to be entertained not to participate. But in saying that 75% of people didn't boo, because 75% make no noise anyway ....
Doesn't help that your're so far from the action and the DJ kills it anyway as soon as a rare moment of crowd participation happens, seems a bit futile, maybe the other NZ grounds are better.
I've said this many times before, but music at live sporting events is an absolute blight on the game whether it's cricket or rugby. I hate it with every ounce of my being.
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@Crucial said in Bledisloe One: Wellington, October 11:
I still don't get how, after all these years and experience, the message hasn't got through to players about kicking when it is windy in the Caketin.
The best goalkickers there don't 'allow' for anything. Best option is to aim down the middle and let the swirl take it both ways. Hodge did that and was inches away from an incredible score.
With out of hand kicking keep it flat Jordie! WTF is with kicking high for distance against a swirling headwind!I remember when Wilkinson nailed everything at the Cake Tin to get England a famous victory. When asked about it he said he just kicked them straight and saw the ball get blown off course and then back on course over the posts.
