RWC: England v New Zealand (SF1)
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if true , the big change in the side is Pat T for Todd , a significant bulking up ,
the rest is changing up who starts and who finishes , maybe they see this game as a better one to close with the two 7s rather than start ?
I get the argument for Cane starting over Ardie , particularly with Ardie not being used in that role much recently , and ardie does seem more of the impact type,
Does that mean Pat comes on and plays lock , with 2 7s operating ? then we get smaller again ?
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@mariner4life said in RWC: England v New Zealand (SF1):
who do the neutrals go for this weekend?
The dirty cynical cheating #1 side going for a threepeat of World Cups?
or the English?
The old 'fights, injuries and the ref"?
If you were playing Sunday, then England. Assuming of course that we beat SA on the Saturday.
But we're not, so...
England.
And destiny is in our own hands.
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@Nepia said in RWC: England v New Zealand (SF1):
@mariner4life said in RWC: England v New Zealand (SF1):
@Catogrande said in RWC: England v New Zealand (SF1):
@DMX Interesting your view on the Barret v Mo'unga discussion. I've never felt that Barrett was a fantastic fly half - and I realise that this may lead to me being virtual lynched on here, but to me he does not seem to fit too well for some of the key duties of a 10. His kicking game is a bit off, his game management is not up there with the likes of say Carter, BUT he is without doubt a fantastic, almost freakish, rugby player and has to play. I can see the argument for having him at 10 as he is so good that you want to get the ball to him as often and as quickly as possible, but I think I agree with you that the extra space he gets at 15 is perhaps more suited and allied to that, you have a bloody good 10 in Mo'unga to bring a little more control to the game.
A very nice problem to have.
Off to dig a trench and search for my tin hat...
man, i am with you. I got lynched for saying Barrett was a poor 10 but a fantastic rugby player. The Hurricanes faithful are a little sensitive.
I'm actually wondering where @Catogrande has been for the past 12-18 months for the this discussion.
I usually ignore your parochial inter-provincial shitfights
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@Catogrande said in RWC: England v New Zealand (SF1):
@Nepia said in RWC: England v New Zealand (SF1):
@mariner4life said in RWC: England v New Zealand (SF1):
@Catogrande said in RWC: England v New Zealand (SF1):
@DMX Interesting your view on the Barret v Mo'unga discussion. I've never felt that Barrett was a fantastic fly half - and I realise that this may lead to me being virtual lynched on here, but to me he does not seem to fit too well for some of the key duties of a 10. His kicking game is a bit off, his game management is not up there with the likes of say Carter, BUT he is without doubt a fantastic, almost freakish, rugby player and has to play. I can see the argument for having him at 10 as he is so good that you want to get the ball to him as often and as quickly as possible, but I think I agree with you that the extra space he gets at 15 is perhaps more suited and allied to that, you have a bloody good 10 in Mo'unga to bring a little more control to the game.
A very nice problem to have.
Off to dig a trench and search for my tin hat...
man, i am with you. I got lynched for saying Barrett was a poor 10 but a fantastic rugby player. The Hurricanes faithful are a little sensitive.
I'm actually wondering where @Catogrande has been for the past 12-18 months for the this discussion.
I usually ignore your parochial inter-provincial shitfights
Inter-franchise thank you very much!
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@Catogrande said in RWC: England v New Zealand (SF1):
@Nepia said in RWC: England v New Zealand (SF1):
@mariner4life said in RWC: England v New Zealand (SF1):
@Catogrande said in RWC: England v New Zealand (SF1):
@DMX Interesting your view on the Barret v Mo'unga discussion. I've never felt that Barrett was a fantastic fly half - and I realise that this may lead to me being virtual lynched on here, but to me he does not seem to fit too well for some of the key duties of a 10. His kicking game is a bit off, his game management is not up there with the likes of say Carter, BUT he is without doubt a fantastic, almost freakish, rugby player and has to play. I can see the argument for having him at 10 as he is so good that you want to get the ball to him as often and as quickly as possible, but I think I agree with you that the extra space he gets at 15 is perhaps more suited and allied to that, you have a bloody good 10 in Mo'unga to bring a little more control to the game.
A very nice problem to have.
Off to dig a trench and search for my tin hat...
man, i am with you. I got lynched for saying Barrett was a poor 10 but a fantastic rugby player. The Hurricanes faithful are a little sensitive.
I'm actually wondering where @Catogrande has been for the past 12-18 months for the this discussion.
I usually ignore your parochial inter-provincial shitfights
It's very simple for an Englishman. Support Ta$man.
Ta$man comprises two provinces - Nelson (named for Lord Horatio) and Marlborough (named for John Churchill,Duke of).
Ignore the subterfuge that we have overlaid these with a Dutchman!
We come with the added bonus that we're about to win by beating some dish made of beef.
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@taniwharugby said in RWC: England v New Zealand (SF1):
Lawes is an awesome player, but I dont rate Itoje at all, like a lazier version of Ali Williams.
Didn't Ali invent the kick pass?
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@junior said in RWC: England v New Zealand (SF1):
@Snowy said in RWC: England v New Zealand (SF1):
@mariner4life said in RWC: England v New Zealand (SF1):
who do the neutrals go for this weekend?
My guess:
I don't think Wales will want us in the final if they manage to win (so not neutral anyway)
Saffas aren't generally on our side, but maybe some support as usual from tanned ones
Aussies and Irish will all be conflicted. Probably ABE.
French likely with us (in spite of my comments on here about them and their referees).
Scots with us.
PI's with us (I would hope).The best bit will the Japanese fans who more than likely will be with us too.
Gonna be fun.
Wales are firmly in the ABE camp - there' a lot of disquiet on social media about people (i.e. the "British" media) forgetting they also have a big match this weekend.
You've got to be kidding me.
The day a Welshmen supports NZ is the day a Welshmen forgets the ridculous sized chip on his shoulder about New Zealand. And I've never seen anything close to that. From any of them.
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@MajorRage said in RWC: England v New Zealand (SF1):
@junior said in RWC: England v New Zealand (SF1):
@Snowy said in RWC: England v New Zealand (SF1):
@mariner4life said in RWC: England v New Zealand (SF1):
who do the neutrals go for this weekend?
My guess:
I don't think Wales will want us in the final if they manage to win (so not neutral anyway)
Saffas aren't generally on our side, but maybe some support as usual from tanned ones
Aussies and Irish will all be conflicted. Probably ABE.
French likely with us (in spite of my comments on here about them and their referees).
Scots with us.
PI's with us (I would hope).The best bit will the Japanese fans who more than likely will be with us too.
Gonna be fun.
Wales are firmly in the ABE camp - there' a lot of disquiet on social media about people (i.e. the "British" media) forgetting they also have a big match this weekend.
You've got to be kidding me.
The day a Welshmen supports NZ is the day a Welshmen forgets the ridculous sized chip on his shoulder about New Zealand. And I've never seen anything close to that. From any of them.
I know one who does!
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@Chris-B said in RWC: England v New Zealand (SF1):
@Catogrande said in RWC: England v New Zealand (SF1):
@Nepia said in RWC: England v New Zealand (SF1):
@mariner4life said in RWC: England v New Zealand (SF1):
@Catogrande said in RWC: England v New Zealand (SF1):
@DMX Interesting your view on the Barret v Mo'unga discussion. I've never felt that Barrett was a fantastic fly half - and I realise that this may lead to me being virtual lynched on here, but to me he does not seem to fit too well for some of the key duties of a 10. His kicking game is a bit off, his game management is not up there with the likes of say Carter, BUT he is without doubt a fantastic, almost freakish, rugby player and has to play. I can see the argument for having him at 10 as he is so good that you want to get the ball to him as often and as quickly as possible, but I think I agree with you that the extra space he gets at 15 is perhaps more suited and allied to that, you have a bloody good 10 in Mo'unga to bring a little more control to the game.
A very nice problem to have.
Off to dig a trench and search for my tin hat...
man, i am with you. I got lynched for saying Barrett was a poor 10 but a fantastic rugby player. The Hurricanes faithful are a little sensitive.
I'm actually wondering where @Catogrande has been for the past 12-18 months for the this discussion.
I usually ignore your parochial inter-provincial shitfights
It's very simple for an Englishman. Support Ta$man.
Ta$man comprises two provinces - Nelson (named for Lord Horatio) and Marlborough (named for John Churchill,Duke of).
Ignore the subterfuge that we have overlaid these with a Dutchman!
We come with the added bonus that we're about to win by beating some dish made of beef.
Nah Nelson was a sickly vainglorious short arse, who was the laugh of the London chasing after a woman 6 inches taller, and many times his weight. Wellington, however, was the most famous man in Europe, PM, Alf a down to earth realist.
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@Machpants Pah!
Everyone knows that if the Prussian Blucher had turned up half an hour later, ABBA would have been singing "Mon, mon, à Waterloo, Wellington s'est rendu....
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@mariner4life said in RWC: England v New Zealand (SF1):
Not starting Cane would be precisely the lynching rope i am looking for if it goes tits up
It's fine I'm sure they're just saving him for the final.
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@MajorRage said in RWC: England v New Zealand (SF1):
@junior said in RWC: England v New Zealand (SF1):
@Snowy said in RWC: England v New Zealand (SF1):
@mariner4life said in RWC: England v New Zealand (SF1):
who do the neutrals go for this weekend?
My guess:
I don't think Wales will want us in the final if they manage to win (so not neutral anyway)
Saffas aren't generally on our side, but maybe some support as usual from tanned ones
Aussies and Irish will all be conflicted. Probably ABE.
French likely with us (in spite of my comments on here about them and their referees).
Scots with us.
PI's with us (I would hope).The best bit will the Japanese fans who more than likely will be with us too.
Gonna be fun.
Wales are firmly in the ABE camp - there' a lot of disquiet on social media about people (i.e. the "British" media) forgetting they also have a big match this weekend.
You've got to be kidding me.
The day a Welshmen supports NZ is the day a Welshmen forgets the ridculous sized chip on his shoulder about New Zealand. And I've never seen anything close to that. From any of them.
I'm not kidding - I've seen it with my own two eyes. I know a lot of Welsh have massive chips about the ABs, but that surely pales in comparison to the ill-will towards their English masters.
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@booboo said in RWC: England v New Zealand (SF1):
@junior said in RWC: England v New Zealand (SF1):
USPs
Que?
Unique Selling Point? As in, point of difference
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@booboo said in RWC: England v New Zealand (SF1):
Back to Eddie. On reflection does anyone else think he tried a little too hard in yesterday's presser?
Just went far enough to look desparate.
Just my thoughts.
I thought the pressure part Going for 3 in a row was a little desperate , and they have none apparently:)
