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  • MajorRageM Away
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    @junior said in RWC: England v New Zealand (SF1):

    @Snowy said in RWC: England v New Zealand (SF1):

    @mariner4life said in RWC: England v New Zealand (SF1):

    who do the neutrals go for this weekend?

    My guess:

    I don't think Wales will want us in the final if they manage to win (so not neutral anyway)
    Saffas aren't generally on our side, but maybe some support as usual from tanned ones
    Aussies and Irish will all be conflicted. Probably ABE.
    French likely with us (in spite of my comments on here about them and their referees).
    Scots with us.
    PI's with us (I would hope).

    The best bit will the Japanese fans who more than likely will be with us too.

    Gonna be fun.

    Wales are firmly in the ABE camp - there' a lot of disquiet on social media about people (i.e. the "British" media) forgetting they also have a big match this weekend.

    You've got to be kidding me.

    The day a Welshmen supports NZ is the day a Welshmen forgets the ridculous sized chip on his shoulder about New Zealand. And I've never seen anything close to that. From any of them.

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    @MajorRage said in RWC: England v New Zealand (SF1):

    @junior said in RWC: England v New Zealand (SF1):

    @Snowy said in RWC: England v New Zealand (SF1):

    @mariner4life said in RWC: England v New Zealand (SF1):

    who do the neutrals go for this weekend?

    My guess:

    I don't think Wales will want us in the final if they manage to win (so not neutral anyway)
    Saffas aren't generally on our side, but maybe some support as usual from tanned ones
    Aussies and Irish will all be conflicted. Probably ABE.
    French likely with us (in spite of my comments on here about them and their referees).
    Scots with us.
    PI's with us (I would hope).

    The best bit will the Japanese fans who more than likely will be with us too.

    Gonna be fun.

    Wales are firmly in the ABE camp - there' a lot of disquiet on social media about people (i.e. the "British" media) forgetting they also have a big match this weekend.

    You've got to be kidding me.

    The day a Welshmen supports NZ is the day a Welshmen forgets the ridculous sized chip on his shoulder about New Zealand. And I've never seen anything close to that. From any of them.

    I know one who does!

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    @Chris-B said in RWC: England v New Zealand (SF1):

    @Catogrande said in RWC: England v New Zealand (SF1):

    @Nepia said in RWC: England v New Zealand (SF1):

    @mariner4life said in RWC: England v New Zealand (SF1):

    @Catogrande said in RWC: England v New Zealand (SF1):

    @DMX Interesting your view on the Barret v Mo'unga discussion. I've never felt that Barrett was a fantastic fly half - and I realise that this may lead to me being virtual lynched on here, but to me he does not seem to fit too well for some of the key duties of a 10. His kicking game is a bit off, his game management is not up there with the likes of say Carter, BUT he is without doubt a fantastic, almost freakish, rugby player and has to play. I can see the argument for having him at 10 as he is so good that you want to get the ball to him as often and as quickly as possible, but I think I agree with you that the extra space he gets at 15 is perhaps more suited and allied to that, you have a bloody good 10 in Mo'unga to bring a little more control to the game.

    A very nice problem to have.

    Off to dig a trench and search for my tin hat...

    man, i am with you. I got lynched for saying Barrett was a poor 10 but a fantastic rugby player. The Hurricanes faithful are a little sensitive.

    I'm actually wondering where @Catogrande has been for the past 12-18 months for the this discussion.

    I usually ignore your parochial inter-provincial shitfights

    It's very simple for an Englishman. Support Ta$man.

    Ta$man comprises two provinces - Nelson (named for Lord Horatio) and Marlborough (named for John Churchill,Duke of).

    Ignore the subterfuge that we have overlaid these with a Dutchman!

    We come with the added bonus that we're about to win by beating some dish made of beef.

    Nah Nelson was a sickly vainglorious short arse, who was the laugh of the London chasing after a woman 6 inches taller, and many times his weight. Wellington, however, was the most famous man in Europe, PM, Alf a down to earth realist.

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    @Machpants Pah!

    Everyone knows that if the Prussian Blucher had turned up half an hour later, ABBA would have been singing "Mon, mon, à Waterloo, Wellington s'est rendu.... 🙂

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    @Chris-B coulda woulda shoulda. Pretty much the story of England Vs ABs 😜

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    @mariner4life said in RWC: England v New Zealand (SF1):

    Not starting Cane would be precisely the lynching rope i am looking for if it goes tits up

    It's fine I'm sure they're just saving him for the final.

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    @MajorRage said in RWC: England v New Zealand (SF1):

    @junior said in RWC: England v New Zealand (SF1):

    @Snowy said in RWC: England v New Zealand (SF1):

    @mariner4life said in RWC: England v New Zealand (SF1):

    who do the neutrals go for this weekend?

    My guess:

    I don't think Wales will want us in the final if they manage to win (so not neutral anyway)
    Saffas aren't generally on our side, but maybe some support as usual from tanned ones
    Aussies and Irish will all be conflicted. Probably ABE.
    French likely with us (in spite of my comments on here about them and their referees).
    Scots with us.
    PI's with us (I would hope).

    The best bit will the Japanese fans who more than likely will be with us too.

    Gonna be fun.

    Wales are firmly in the ABE camp - there' a lot of disquiet on social media about people (i.e. the "British" media) forgetting they also have a big match this weekend.

    You've got to be kidding me.

    The day a Welshmen supports NZ is the day a Welshmen forgets the ridculous sized chip on his shoulder about New Zealand. And I've never seen anything close to that. From any of them.

    I'm not kidding - I've seen it with my own two eyes. I know a lot of Welsh have massive chips about the ABs, but that surely pales in comparison to the ill-will towards their English masters.

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    @junior said in RWC: England v New Zealand (SF1):

    USPs

    Que?

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    @booboo said in RWC: England v New Zealand (SF1):

    @junior said in RWC: England v New Zealand (SF1):

    USPs

    Que?

    Unique Selling Point? As in, point of difference

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    Back to Eddie. On reflection does anyone else think he tried a little too hard in yesterday's presser?

    Just went far enough to look desparate.

    Just my thoughts.

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    yes I got the impression there were some nervous undertones, but heck fair enough he has invested a lot of himself in the last four years for this, Hansen has seemed to maintain his cool demeanour, in fact I don't think I have ever seen Shag tense

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  • MajorRageM Away
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    MajorRage
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    Shag has kicked off things quite a lot with his 6N blocking the global calendar comment.

    Fantastic diversionary tactic.

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    Eddie was far too forced. Introducing all sorts of lame shit to put pressure on ABs. Spying. Literal pressure comments (only ABs mention that they are under pressure, a good thing), etc. Yeah he's wound to right, hopefully his team is too

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    @booboo said in RWC: England v New Zealand (SF1):

    Back to Eddie. On reflection does anyone else think he tried a little too hard in yesterday's presser?

    Just went far enough to look desparate.

    Just my thoughts.

    I thought the pressure part Going for 3 in a row was a little desperate , and they have none apparently:)

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    @booboo said in RWC: England v New Zealand (SF1):

    Back to Eddie. On reflection does anyone else think he tried a little too hard in yesterday's presser?

    Just went far enough to look desparate.

    Just my thoughts.

    He's been trying to play mind games in the media since back in his Brumby days, it just looks pretty tired these now and you get the feeling you've heard it all before.

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    Ok now I hope we smash England off the Park even more than I first did.
    The Media interviews with England Players,Ex England players Coaches and just the English Media have once again reminded me why I dislike English Teams.I would Hate to lose this SF it would become unbearable.

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    @Chris said in RWC: England v New Zealand (SF1):

    Ok now I hope we smash England off the Park even more than I first did.
    The Media interviews with England Players,Ex England players Coaches and just the English Media have once again reminded me why I dislike English Teams.I would Hate to lose this SF it would become unbearable.

    I desperately want a ABs vs Springboks WC Final - 100th Test, mutual trespect and regard, plus we'll probably get Pienaar and Fitzy waxing eloquent right over the top of the numpty NH "analysts" - the disdain they have for the British talking heads is palpable

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    If Eddie & England lose this weekend, that's 2 years with no 6N, no victories over Scotland, and no RWC.

    Hardly encouraging given they're the best resourced team in World Rugby.

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    @NTA said in RWC: England v New Zealand (SF1):

    If Eddie & England lose this weekend, that's 2 years with no 6N, no victories over Scotland, and no RWC.

    Hardly encouraging given they're the best resourced team in World Rugby.

    Yeah, don't doubt they're under massive pressure themselves for these reasons. That's not to mention the massive expectation and spotlight that's now on this team "back home" or the fact that this team is fighting to avenge their failure at the last world cup. They really have to win this tournament, otherwise the last 4 years will have been wasted and an abject failure

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    @junior

    Their fans are frothing though. I work with (and teach) and few poms and every single one of them were 'you're going to get smacked this weekend', which I found interesting as they seem to be embracing the pressure.

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