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    @Bovidae as did a few of our big name players, obviously the pressure they exterted contributed, but some of the errors were very uncharacteristic

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    TAB odds are clearcut for all the QFs.

    https://www.tab.co.nz/sports/quick-multi

    If you believe these; South Africa, New Zealand, England and Wales will all win comfortably.

    I'd bet against that happening - though, I reckon the Jaapies will be comfortably too good for Japan.

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    Discipline is crucial. We can't be giving away the silly penalties that we gave away in Dublin. Whitelock and Brodie were the two biggest offenders that night. They both need huge games against Ryan and Henderson who are both world class.

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    @Chris-B those are low odds for that multi I reckon (going all faves)

    Thought NZ with -12.5 start at $1.95 was a good option.

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    @akan004 said in RWC: All Blacks v Ireland (QF2):

    Discipline is crucial. We can't be giving away the silly penalties that we gave away in Dublin.
    Whitelock and Brodie were the two biggest offenders that night. They both need huge games against Ryan and Henderson who are both world class.

    Long periods defending concerns me most, that is where we are most likely to concede penalties and or cards , and not rocket science to think this what Ireland will try to do .... again

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    Nothing to worry about. Ireland are the most predictable team in the tournament.

    Sexton kicks ball. Toner alternative catches. Tackle. Ruck. Pass. Tackle. Ruck. Pass. Tackle. Ruck. Pass. Tackle. Ruck. Pass. Pass. Tackle. Ruck. Pass. Tackle. Ruck. Pass. Loop. Tackle. Ruck. Pass. Tackle. Ruck. Pass. Ruck. Ruck. Ruck. Ruck. Ruck.

    Try. Restart.

    Sometimes there’s a kick in there.

    Should be a doddle.

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    @Chris-B said in RWC: All Blacks v Ireland (QF2):

    TAB odds are clearcut for all the QFs.

    https://www.tab.co.nz/sports/quick-multi

    If you believe these; South Africa, New Zealand, England and Wales will all win comfortably.

    I'd bet against that happening - though, I reckon the Jaapies will be comfortably too good for Japan.

    Yep. New Zealand 1/5 Ireland 5/1.

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    Ireland could do well to use a similar game plan to France in the game that never happened in 2007 . Exploit the lack of experience in our wings , Smith might negate it but he’s been a bit disappointing this year .

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    @Derm-McCrum said in RWC: All Blacks v Ireland (QF2):

    @Chris-B said in RWC: All Blacks v Ireland (QF2):

    TAB odds are clearcut for all the QFs.

    https://www.tab.co.nz/sports/quick-multi

    If you believe these; South Africa, New Zealand, England and Wales will all win comfortably.

    I'd bet against that happening - though, I reckon the Jaapies will be comfortably too good for Japan.

    Yep. New Zealand 1/5 Ireland 5/1.

    Madness!

    Good for an insurance bet though! 🙂

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    @Derm-McCrum said in RWC: All Blacks v Ireland (QF2):

    Nothing to worry about. Ireland are the most predictable team in the tournament.

    Sexton kicks ball. Toner alternative catches. Tackle. Ruck. Pass. Tackle. Ruck. Pass. Tackle. Ruck. Pass. Tackle. Ruck. Pass. Pass. Tackle. Ruck. Pass. Tackle. Ruck. Pass. Loop. Tackle. Ruck. Pass. Tackle. Ruck. Pass. Ruck. Ruck. Ruck. Ruck. Ruck.

    Try. Restart.

    Sometimes there’s a kick in there.

    Should be a doddle.

    i was honestly about to post almost exactly this!

    But, just like one D Pocock, it may be one trick, but they are fucking good at it. And, that exact game plan is the best way to beat us. They just need to do it better than they have done all year. And i for one think they will be all over it this week, it's a huge game for Irish rugby.

    And, to that point, do we do a Cheika, ignore their tactics, and just pick the side to play our way the best? Or do we pick back 3 guys who can take high balls?

    Knockout rugby is an absolute fluffybunny, and therefore my anxiety about this game will build during the week, despite my earlier blase ambivalence

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    @mariner4life I think they have shown the preferred back 3; Bridge, BB, Reece (maybe swap Reece for BFA?)

    I think the team almost picks itself, think they have been showing us thier intentions, only real point of contention is 12/13...

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    @The-Irishman said in RWC: All Blacks v Ireland (QF2):

    Hansen knows this Irish team very well now.

    Last year in Dublin New Zealand were at the end of a hard season and had a tough game against the English.

    They will be fresh and well prep'd. I can see them sucking the Irish in the centre of the park, forcing them to commit players to the ruck, then hitting them out wide. I hope I'm wrong, obviously, but I can see a pretty big scoreline for the AB's.

    You may be new to the Fern but you've obviously played this underdog game before, and I won't let this continue. Ireland are odds on favourites, theirs to lose. Would be very surprised if the ABs got up.

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    @kiwiinmelb said in RWC: All Blacks v Ireland (QF2):

    @akan004 said in RWC: All Blacks v Ireland (QF2):

    Discipline is crucial. We can't be giving away the silly penalties that we gave away in Dublin.
    Whitelock and Brodie were the two biggest offenders that night. They both need huge games against Ryan and Henderson who are both world class.

    Long periods defending concerns me most, that is where we are most likely to concede penalties and or cards , and not rocket science to think this what Ireland will try to do .... again

    That's always the concern when playing Ireland. They average something like 200 rucks a game which often leads to the defending team infringing. Not too dissimilar to the Brumbies in the late 90s.

    How the ruck is refereed will be important. Refs at this WC are allowing the attacking teams to not release the ball and pilferring stats have been way down as a result. This will obviously favour Ireland's game plan which is based on ball retention.

    Cards also will be a factor. Since we will probably be making a lot more tackles than them, it's crucial that we don't give the ref a reason to send someone to the bin.

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    @taniwharugby my only thought was BFA over Reece. But i wouldn't do it. I think we'll need the spark that boy seems to provide every game.

    BFA or Pimply Giraffe on the bench?

    SBW or Crotty at 12?

    Patty T's power or Red Barrett's reliability?

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    @mariner4life yep to all those 🙂

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    dunno if mentioned, but just heard the Barretts grandfather died yesterday...was due to fly out to Japan this week.

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    @No-Quarter said in RWC: All Blacks v Ireland (QF2):

    @The-Irishman said in RWC: All Blacks v Ireland (QF2):

    Hansen knows this Irish team very well now.

    Last year in Dublin New Zealand were at the end of a hard season and had a tough game against the English.

    They will be fresh and well prep'd. I can see them sucking the Irish in the centre of the park, forcing them to commit players to the ruck, then hitting them out wide. I hope I'm wrong, obviously, but I can see a pretty big scoreline for the AB's.

    You may be new to the Fern but you've obviously played this underdog game before, and I won't let this continue. Ireland are odds on favourites, theirs to lose. Would be very surprised if the ABs got up.

    Err

    New Zealand 1/5 on
    Ireland 5/1

    Just sayin like...

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    @Derm-McCrum said in RWC: All Blacks v Ireland (QF2):

    @No-Quarter said in RWC: All Blacks v Ireland (QF2):

    @The-Irishman said in RWC: All Blacks v Ireland (QF2):

    Hansen knows this Irish team very well now.

    Last year in Dublin New Zealand were at the end of a hard season and had a tough game against the English.

    They will be fresh and well prep'd. I can see them sucking the Irish in the centre of the park, forcing them to commit players to the ruck, then hitting them out wide. I hope I'm wrong, obviously, but I can see a pretty big scoreline for the AB's.

    You may be new to the Fern but you've obviously played this underdog game before, and I won't let this continue. Ireland are odds on favourites, theirs to lose. Would be very surprised if the ABs got up.

    Err

    New Zealand 1/5 on
    Ireland 5/1

    Just sayin like...

    pfffft, sounds like another Paddy Power promotion to merk people.

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    Oh shit that's poor timing re their grandfather, how are they going to get to the funeral? They may fly back for a day?

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    @mariner4life said in RWC: All Blacks v Ireland (QF2):

    @Derm-McCrum said in RWC: All Blacks v Ireland (QF2):

    Nothing to worry about. Ireland are the most predictable team in the tournament.

    Sexton kicks ball. Toner alternative catches. Tackle. Ruck. Pass. Tackle. Ruck. Pass. Tackle. Ruck. Pass. Tackle. Ruck. Pass. Pass. Tackle. Ruck. Pass. Tackle. Ruck. Pass. Loop. Tackle. Ruck. Pass. Tackle. Ruck. Pass. Ruck. Ruck. Ruck. Ruck. Ruck.

    Try. Restart.

    Sometimes there’s a kick in there.

    Should be a doddle.

    i was honestly about to post almost exactly this!

    But, just like one D Pocock, it may be one trick, but they are fucking good at it. And, that exact game plan is the best way to beat us. They just need to do it better than they have done all year. And i for one think they will be all over it this week, it's a huge game for Irish rugby.

    And, to that point, do we do a Cheika, ignore their tactics, and just pick the side to play our way the best? Or do we pick back 3 guys who can take high balls?

    Knockout rugby is an absolute fluffybunny, and therefore my anxiety about this game will build during the week, despite my earlier blase ambivalence

    The other challenge when you're faced with making endless tackles like this, is the current card situation - its increasingly hard to make dominant tackles without making the odd error of timing or placement, especially if the Irish are cynical in their attack (not saying they would be) i.e. changing angle/body height late to initiate higher contact.

    I'm fucking nervous, and I think the odds are absurd. I just hope I'm worrying over nothing!

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