Bledisloe #1
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@ACT-Crusader said in Bledisoe #1:
Ardie’s far more effective on the side of the scrum. I wouldn’t be surprised to see him and Cane basically playing left and right.
Particularly in defensive situations,
What will be interesting, is if ardie packs into the back at all, on our ball.
Surely you can’t just do it when you want him to run the ball , because that would be telegraphing it, interested to see how if at all they vary it, or are we reading to much into it?
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@kiwiinmelb or can just be used as a decoy...
Ardie is still a good defender, just the tackles are not as 'effective' as others, and then it negates his ability on the turnover, so ideally you want Cane to hit the man, Ardie 2nd man in to attack the ball if on.
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Do the All Blacks ever run the ball from Number 8 from a scrum?
It would seem a criminal waste of space to me.
Ardie at faux 8, running some scrum ball, during the warm-ups/friendlies/TRC/Bled - I might be OK with as a giant decoy for the bigger picture later on, to hold defences closer in - when in actual fact we have no intention of going down the fatty-Vunipola type channels.
I'm OK with a big unit doing some pick and goes, and rumbling up some messy ruck ball. But not from beautiful sweet, sweet set piece scrums.
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i hate you all
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apparently every member of the 23 tomorrow is NZ born, first time for 7 years...
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@Rapido said in Bledisoe #1:
Do the All Blacks ever run the ball from Number 8 from a scrum?
It would seem a criminal waste of space to me.
Ardie at faux 8, running some scrum ball, during the warm-ups/friendlies/TRC/Bled - I might be OK with as a giant decoy for the bigger picture later on, to hold defences closer in - when in actual fact we have no intention of going down the fatty-Vunipola type channels.
I'm OK with a big unit doing some pick and goes, and rumbling up some messy ruck ball. But not from beautiful sweet, sweet set piece scrums.
They prefer to have an elaborate backline setup, then have the 11 perform a slow hit up somewhere between the opposition 10 and 12.
Works every time.
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@pukunui said in Bledisoe #1:
@Rapido said in Bledisoe #1:
Do the All Blacks ever run the ball from Number 8 from a scrum?
It would seem a criminal waste of space to me.
Ardie at faux 8, running some scrum ball, during the warm-ups/friendlies/TRC/Bled - I might be OK with as a giant decoy for the bigger picture later on, to hold defences closer in - when in actual fact we have no intention of going down the fatty-Vunipola type channels.
I'm OK with a big unit doing some pick and goes, and rumbling up some messy ruck ball. But not from beautiful sweet, sweet set piece scrums.
They prefer to have an elaborate backline setup, then have the 11 perform a slow hit up somewhere between the opposition 10 and 12.
Works every time.
They don't see it coming.
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@Daffy-Jaffy said in Bledisoe #1:
Video of James O'Connor playing in Europe. He has as many different hairdo's as he has different numbers on his back.
90secs in and if that's the footage that Chieka relied on, he should be put in a home.
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@taniwharugby said in Bledisoe #1:
apparently every member of the 23 tomorrow is NZ born, first time for 7 years...
All their parents were poached from the Islands.
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@Rapido said in Bledisoe #1:
Do the All Blacks ever run the ball from Number 8 from a scrum?
It would seem a criminal waste of space to me.
Reado did this last year (year before?) big run off the back, sucked in teh defender and HB and threw an offload to ??Goodue??. Was a thing o fbeauty.
The thing for me is that you have to keep defences guessing. If you never run, they'll set for it. If you always run, they set for it. Keep 'em guessing and making decisions
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@taniwharugby said in Bledisoe #1:
apparently every member of the 23 tomorrow is NZ born, first time for 7 years...
Yeah I already read about it on the front page of the Times, Stephen Jones was praising the ABs for their choices...
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@Siam said in Bledisoe #1:
@Crucial I guess all of us remember where we were for that game. The emotional rollercoaster was immense.
In the cold light of day though, jeez our defence to let them back in was a black mark.
But, a win's a win
working. in a bar that didn't have TVs. Took me years to see it.
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@Siam Yep, our offence was good that day...
IIRC that one and the next one in Wellington were crackers, with the better team having the least points in both games.
I was living in UK at the time, not sure why we hadnt gone into a pub to watch that one?
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@Siam said in Bledisoe #1:
@Crucial I guess all of us remember where we were for that game. The emotional rollercoaster was immense.
In the cold light of day though, jeez our defence to let them back in was a black mark.
But, a win's a win
Yep. Had to switch the TV off for a few minutes when Aus drew level. Otherwise I probably would have inserted my boot into it.
Imagine this team with that type of lead after 6 minutes. Shut the gate.
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@Rapido said in Bledisoe #1:
Do the All Blacks ever run the ball from Number 8 from a scrum?
It would seem a criminal waste of space to me.
Ardie at faux 8, running some scrum ball, during the warm-ups/friendlies/TRC/Bled - I might be OK with as a giant decoy for the bigger picture later on, to hold defences closer in - when in actual fact we have no intention of going down the fatty-Vunipola type channels.
I'm OK with a big unit doing some pick and goes, and rumbling up some messy ruck ball. But not from beautiful sweet, sweet set piece scrums.
Geez I know it was only a friendly but the Argentina game really wasn't that long ago. Notable for laughable occasions with Ardie breaking off the back of the scrum so effectively there was initially no defenders in sight.
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