Filling BBBR's enormous shoes.
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@DaGrubster Agreed, but honestly if we can't beat Scotland without BBBR, then we really don't deserve to win the Cup. The problem with picking BBBR and not playing him till the playoffs is the workload that Whitelock and Barrett will now have to carry. It really is a blow as it just doesn't effect lock selection, but potentially Barrett's move to blindside as well.
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Let’s be clear.
It was a bad clearout, in from the side.
But in synch with what was allowed during the game. Hence, it was fine.
Retallick not been the same this year, so I’m not unduly bothered. If he’s out, so be it. It won’t be the losing of the WC, but significantly less likely to be the winning either.
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@nzzp said in Filling BBBR's enormous shoes.:
DMac and BBBR are big losses for us at this cup. If we win from here, it's a 'thank god' moment, not an 'expected that' moment. Feels like the tales of 1991 (I wasn't following rugby at that stage in my life)
Agree with the bolded part but I haven't given up hope BBBR will be available just yet. If the prognosis is he can be available for the playoff stages I'd still pick him, and select an extra lock to cover. It would be worth the risk given how important he is.
I don't get the comparison to 1991, and you are not the only person to mention this. 2015 was more like 1991 in that many veterans (centurions) were holding on for another RWC cycle. Outside of Franks, Read and SBW you can't say it's the same. Perhaps more like 1999 where there was a desire to have the best players on the park irrespective of their best current position.
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@MajorRage said in Filling BBBR's enormous shoes.:
Let’s be clear.
It was a bad clearout, in from the side.
But in synch with what was allowed during the game. Hence, it was fine.
Retallick not been the same this year, so I’m not unduly bothered. If he’s out, so be it. It won’t be the losing of the WC, but significantly less likely to be the winning either.
I'm bothered, not cos BBBR is the hugely important piece he previously has been, but because SW, SB, and BBBR are an awesome locking trio for the squad. Don't need another with those 3, a loose forward who can cover for minnows. But now we have to put pat t instead, and he's a long way off the top three and not a great injection off the bench. Maybe hemopo instead, at least he's dynamic
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@Bovidae said in Filling BBBR's enormous shoes.:
@nzzp said in Filling BBBR's enormous shoes.:
DMac and BBBR are big losses for us at this cup. If we win from here, it's a 'thank god' moment, not an 'expected that' moment. Feels like the tales of 1991 (I wasn't following rugby at that stage in my life)
Agree with the bolded part but I haven't given up hope BBBR will be available just yet. If the prognosis is he can be available for the playoff stages I'd still pick him, and select an extra lock to cover. It would be worth the risk given how important he is.
I don't get the comparison to 1991, and you are not the only person to mention this. 2015 was more like 1991 in that many veterans (centurions) were holding on for another RWC cycle. Outside of Franks, Read and SBW you can't say it's the same. Perhaps more like 1999 where there was a desire to have the best players on the park irrespective of their best current position.
Agreed. It seems the problem right now is that our depth is not quite as strong and we haven't fully adapted to the new style of rugby.
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@DaGrubster said in Filling BBBR's enormous shoes.:
why is it 1995 all over gain?
Was thinking of Zinny's injury in '95 (anda pparently Robin too - vastly underrated player)
Zinzan Brooke damaged his Achilles tendon and was picked for the Cup but unable to play for a few weeks, and his younger brother Robin had a similar troublesome injury.https://www.nzherald.co.nz/rugby-world-cup-2011/news/article.cfm?c_id=522&objectid=10745228
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Looks like a contributing factor to the damage was for some reason one of the ABs on the ground (can’t see who) had his arm locked around BBBR’s right leg, so when Wun Wun grabbed his left leg Brodie could get his balance back.
Aggressive cleanout, in from the side, made worse by friendly fire I reckon.
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To fill BBBRs shoes...I vote for the man himself.
Reading that headline in Stuff was a great start to the day.
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@Gunner said in Filling BBBR's enormous shoes.:
It’ll be Barrett to start alongside Whitelock, unless of course they want to use Barrett at 6, (which I’m a fan of), in which case it should be Hemopo.
I think BBBR's injury potentially puts paid to that experiment.
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quick look online says you could start some weights as early as 6 weeks after dislocation depending on severity.
if he is available for the tournament then it may be best to leave him out of pool play to give him the chance of a proper conditioning window to get him right for top level rugby.
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