SR Final: Crusaders v Jaguares
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@Jaguares4real said in SR Final: Crusaders v Jaguares:
@MN5 said in SR Final: Crusaders v Jaguares:
arted on all the meaningless friendlies that International rugby teams play. What a waste of tim
I'm trying to educate a mostly Kiwi crowd here about the ARG mentality
There been at times an indifference to most Int'l games especially Summer test matches & EOYT to Europe
ARG is unique in having a diabolical travelling schedule and a shallow playing
Add Bad coaching and Management at UAR level & you have a cocktail for disaster
This has only been reversed in last 18 months with Ledesma & Quesada
RWC and Improvements in TRC are the criteria in which ARG measure itself
Test matches they may be called but that's a fancy word for friendlies
This country beating that country in 2017 means fuck all in 2019Rugby runs on 4 year cycles I couldn't give a fuck about most Pumas games from 2016-19*
Except when they win and then they suddenly become worthwhile? I'm sure a win over the ABs would be met with a shrug of the shoulders due to the obviously friendly and unimportant nature of that encounter.
I thought this "only the RWC games are actual games" bullshit was destroyed when the ABs won 2 in a row. Clearly not.
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@nzzp said in SR Final: Crusaders v Jaguares:
Piling in quite late to this.
You guys are are a bit sensitive to @Jaguares4real . He may be over=egging slightly, but that Jags side can go home feeling like they gave that a real crack. Some magic back play, the lines in midfield were amazing; they found space against a really good Crusaders defence. Looked creative and hard working, they have a bright future.
It'd be piling on less if he saw in the Jaguares victory over the Chiefs what he claims to see in the final.
The Chiefs found space against a really good
CrusadersJaguares defence. Looked creative and hard working, they have a bright future.Except that's horse shit as an analysis of a game. The Chiefs lost because they dropped the ball about a million times, and you can't win dropping the ball. The Jaguares couldn't finish half chances, and you don't beat good sides by missing half chances.
And that's before we even discuss what would have happened if the Crusaders had needed extra points and decided to take a more offensive approach in the scrums. That could have turned very nasty for the Jaguares.
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@Rancid-Schnitzel said in SR Final: Crusaders v Jaguares:
@Jaguares4real said in SR Final: Crusaders v Jaguares:
@MN5 said in SR Final: Crusaders v Jaguares:
arted on all the meaningless friendlies that International rugby teams play. What a waste of tim
I'm trying to educate a mostly Kiwi crowd here about the ARG mentality
There been at times an indifference to most Int'l games especially Summer test matches & EOYT to Europe
ARG is unique in having a diabolical travelling schedule and a shallow playing
Add Bad coaching and Management at UAR level & you have a cocktail for disaster
This has only been reversed in last 18 months with Ledesma & Quesada
RWC and Improvements in TRC are the criteria in which ARG measure itself
Test matches they may be called but that's a fancy word for friendlies
This country beating that country in 2017 means fuck all in 2019Rugby runs on 4 year cycles I couldn't give a fuck about most Pumas games from 2016-19*
Except when they win and then they suddenly become worthwhile? I'm sure a win over the ABs would be met with a shrug of the shoulders due to the obviously friendly and unimportant nature of that encounter.
I thought this "only the RWC games are actual games" bullshit was destroyed when the ABs won 2 in a row. Clearly not.
I’ll give old mate one thing with all his trolling and at times bizarre posting....he’s given me a Rugby nation I despise more than England. Well played.
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@Bones said in SR Final: Crusaders v Jaguares:
@MN5 that's a bit sad, it's not even an Argie! Pretty sure the actual fans aren't such twats...
Oh and two things can be right at the same time you know.
I met one in England who delighted in telling me Jonah couldn’t defend. I’ve assumed they’re all fluffybunnies based on that. It works for me.
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@MN5 said in SR Final: Crusaders v Jaguares:
@Rancid-Schnitzel said in SR Final: Crusaders v Jaguares:
@Jaguares4real said in SR Final: Crusaders v Jaguares:
@MN5 said in SR Final: Crusaders v Jaguares:
arted on all the meaningless friendlies that International rugby teams play. What a waste of tim
I'm trying to educate a mostly Kiwi crowd here about the ARG mentality
There been at times an indifference to most Int'l games especially Summer test matches & EOYT to Europe
ARG is unique in having a diabolical travelling schedule and a shallow playing
Add Bad coaching and Management at UAR level & you have a cocktail for disaster
This has only been reversed in last 18 months with Ledesma & Quesada
RWC and Improvements in TRC are the criteria in which ARG measure itself
Test matches they may be called but that's a fancy word for friendlies
This country beating that country in 2017 means fuck all in 2019Rugby runs on 4 year cycles I couldn't give a fuck about most Pumas games from 2016-19*
Except when they win and then they suddenly become worthwhile? I'm sure a win over the ABs would be met with a shrug of the shoulders due to the obviously friendly and unimportant nature of that encounter.
I thought this "only the RWC games are actual games" bullshit was destroyed when the ABs won 2 in a row. Clearly not.
I’ll give old mate one thing with all his trolling and at times bizarre posting....he’s given me a Rugby nation I despise more than England. Well played.
Bit unfair mate. This guy isn't even Argentinian. Not even sure if he speaks Spanish.
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@Rancid-Schnitzel said in SR Final: Crusaders v Jaguares:
@Jaguares4real said in SR Final: Crusaders v Jaguares:
@MN5 said in SR Final: Crusaders v Jaguares:
I'm trying to educate a mostly Kiwi crowd here about the ARG mentality
Rugby runs on 4 year cycles I couldn't give a fuck about most Pumas games from 2016-19*Except when they win and then they suddenly become worthwhile? I'm sure a win over the ABs would be met with a shrug of the shoulders due to the obviously friendly and unimportant nature of that encounter.
I thought this "only the RWC games are actual games" bullshit was destroyed when the ABs won 2 in a row. Clearly not.
I'll make this simple as you're being wilfully obtuse and twisting my words
If Pumas beat ABs in 12 days It would be a historic win - not been done before but ultimately in a wold cup year mean fuck all
Symbolic wins while nice in records book means little
Bigger fish to fry - RWC prep is more important than games no one will care about in 2 months
Comparing the ABs to Los Pumas is asinine
They have vastly different playing stocks, priorities & commercial arrangements
A team like ABs can go all out for every game and competition as they have the cattle
Pumas can't as they don't have the cattle and a diabolical travelling schedule
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@pukunui said in SR Final: Crusaders v Jaguares:
@Stargazer
Glad to hear you are ok. Asthma sucks.
Agree with the rest of your post. Different perspectives are great. Social media style pontificating gets old quickly.WTF does Social Media pontificating mean?
Are you indicating you like different perspectives but my methods are not to your liking......
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@MN5 said in SR Final: Crusaders v Jaguares:
@Bones said in SR Final: Crusaders v Jaguares:
@MN5 that's a bit sad, it's not even an Argie! Pretty sure the actual fans aren't such twats...
Oh and two things can be right at the same time you know.
I met one in England who delighted in telling me Jonah couldn’t defend. I’ve assumed they’re all fluffybunnies based on that. It works for me.
Good to see that you're such an open minded guy not prone to making vast sweeping generalisations based on a small sample of interactions
Truly a learned man with awareness for differing cultures
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@Jaguares4real said in SR Final: Crusaders v Jaguares:
@MN5 said in SR Final: Crusaders v Jaguares:
@Bones said in SR Final: Crusaders v Jaguares:
@MN5 that's a bit sad, it's not even an Argie! Pretty sure the actual fans aren't such twats...
Oh and two things can be right at the same time you know.
I met one in England who delighted in telling me Jonah couldn’t defend. I’ve assumed they’re all fluffybunnies based on that. It works for me.
Good to see that you're such an open minded guy not prone to making vast sweeping generalisations based on a small sample of interactions
Truly a learned man with awareness for differing cultures
I love the steak, red wine and the women.
It's the Rugby fans who are fluffybunnies. You have done nothing to dispel this view.
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@Jaguares4real said in SR Final: Crusaders v Jaguares:
@Rancid-Schnitzel said in SR Final: Crusaders v Jaguares:
@Jaguares4real said in SR Final: Crusaders v Jaguares:
@MN5 said in SR Final: Crusaders v Jaguares:
I'm trying to educate a mostly Kiwi crowd here about the ARG mentality
Rugby runs on 4 year cycles I couldn't give a fuck about most Pumas games from 2016-19*Except when they win and then they suddenly become worthwhile? I'm sure a win over the ABs would be met with a shrug of the shoulders due to the obviously friendly and unimportant nature of that encounter.
I thought this "only the RWC games are actual games" bullshit was destroyed when the ABs won 2 in a row. Clearly not.
I'll make this simple as you're being wilfully obtuse and twisting my words
If Pumas beat ABs in 12 days It would be a historic win - not been done before but ultimately in a wold cup year mean fuck all
Symbolic wins while nice in records book means little
Bigger fish to fry - RWC prep is more important than games no one will care about in 2 months
Comparing the ABs to Los Pumas is asinine
They have vastly different playing stocks, priorities & commercial arrangements
A team like ABs can go all out for every game and competition as they have the cattle
Pumas can't as they don't have the cattle and a diabolical travelling schedule
OK, so based on this point ( I'll let @Bones address the spelling and grammatical issues ) if the Pumas win I don't want to hear a PEEP out of you other than a brief nod with the kind of display of emotion that would make the 1960s All Blacks look like Richard Simmons.
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@MN5 said in SR Final: Crusaders v Jaguares:
It's the Rugby fans who are fluffybunnies. You have done nothing to dispel this view.
At least you have good taste
I'm not one for kissing arse
ABs and NZ rugby set the standard
You don't go kiss the ring and be happy to play the game
I'll leave that to the clapping seals at Rugby Games aka Japanese fans
I'm going for the knees you look for the weak points in opponents
In the case of NZ, its post RWC and if the mickey mouse league in Japan decide to mirror their season to SR Long Term
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@Jaguares4real said in SR Final: Crusaders v Jaguares:
@MN5 said in SR Final: Crusaders v Jaguares:
It's the Rugby fans who are fluffybunnies. You have done nothing to dispel this view.
At least you have good taste
I'm not one for kissing arse
ABs and NZ rugby set the standard
****You don't go kiss the ring and be happy to play the game
I'll leave that to the clapping seals at Rugby Games aka Japanese fans
I'm going for the knees you look for the weak points in opponents
In the case of NZ, its post RWC and if the mickey mouse league in Japan decide to mirror their season to SR Long Term****
This post was actually going ok until after the third line when it descended into some of the most baffling shit I've read in my 13 years on here. Can anyone enlighten me ?
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I'll try again
NZ rugby is the strongest in world rugby You don't improve by settling for mediocrity and playing nice
I'l leave that Japan to accomplish in every facet of their game
IF they decide to have their Top League clash with SR regularly then NZ will be screwed big time as will AUS & SA
Enlightened now
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@Jaguares4real said in SR Final: Crusaders v Jaguares:
I'll try again
NZ rugby is the strongest in world rugby You don't improve by settling for mediocrity and playing nice
I'l leave that Japan to accomplish in every facet of their game
IF they decide to have their Top League clash with SR regularly then NZ will be screwed big time as will AUS & SA
Enlightened now
But Japan beat South Africa in the last World Cup if I'm not mistaken.
How is this mediocre ?
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@MN5 said in SR Final: Crusaders v Jaguares:
@Jaguares4real said in SR Final: Crusaders v Jaguares:
I'll try again
NZ rugby is the strongest in world rugby You don't improve by settling for mediocrity and playing nice
I'l leave that Japan to accomplish in every facet of their game
IF they decide to have their Top League clash with SR regularly then NZ will be screwed big time as will AUS & SA
Enlightened now
But Japan beat South Africa in the last World Cup if I'm not mistaken.
How is this mediocre ?
A nice symbolic win 4 years ago They went on to get battered by Scotland
Not finish 1st or 2nd in the group & be eliminated in the 1st round
Then consider they've a team full of Mercenaries & Fake Japanese
Wimpie van ver Walt - very Japanese
Luke Thompson - totally Japanese
International Rugby is not meant to be a place to shop around and play for countries of convenience
