Boxing Thread
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Whyte being a cock and a sore loser
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Pretty much how most predicted ie, Fury outboxed Whyte.
TBH I can't see any of the top heavyweights beating Fury. He's really awkward, extremely long and unless you can push him around he'll pick you off. He's really hard to hit as well with his length and great body movement for a guys so big.
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@TheMojoman said in Boxing Thread:
Pretty much how most predicted ie, Fury outboxed Whyte.
TBH I can't see any of the top heavyweights beating Fury. He's really awkward, extremely long and unless you can push him around he'll pick you off. He's really hard to hit as well with his length and great body movement for a guys so big.
Yeah the more I see him the more I see what you mean. It’s easy to look back on the glory days and grab any number of guys from the 60s through to the 2000s who ‘should’ beat Fury but the more I see the more I realise it’s not a sure thing.
Very hard to hit, has a reach for Africa and even when he does get tagged he has toughness and heart. Still question marks over his hitting power but in the era he’s in it seems more than decent.
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@TheMojoman Usyk beats him imo and I'm a big Fury fan too. Usyk's speed out of the pocket and his ability to change angles troubles Fury massively. Fury would have to use his size to bully him but I think Usyk's footwork won't allow him to lie all over him and clinch him to death.
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@African-Monkey said in Boxing Thread:
@TheMojoman Usyk beats him imo and I'm a big Fury fan too. Usyk's speed out of the pocket and his ability to change angles troubles Fury massively. Fury would have to use his size to bully him but I think Usyk's footwork won't allow him to lie all over him and clinch him to death.
Would love to see this fight
Think Usyk is too small
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@MiketheSnow Its easily the biggest fight in the division.
Have to disagree on the size argument. Usyk showed enough to me against AJ that he's quick enough to combat the size aspect along with his ring IQ which is some of the best you'll see.
If Fury is to be considered an ATG, he has to beat Usyk imo. The way he speaks down about Usyk suggests to me that he himself knows how good he is deep down.
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@African-Monkey said in Boxing Thread:
@MiketheSnow Its easily the biggest fight in the division.
Have to disagree on the size argument. Usyk showed enough to me against AJ that he's quick enough to combat the size aspect along with his ring IQ which is some of the best you'll see.
If Fury is to be considered an ATG, he has to beat Usyk imo. The way he speaks down about Usyk suggests to me that he himself knows how good he is deep down.
Too long (reach) over too big.
Defintiely agree that if he walks away now he tarnishes his legacy.
He's had enough time to blow the lineal shit.
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It’s an intriguing fight if it happens ,
I’ve got no idea what would happen to be honest ,
What usyk did to AJ may not work the same on Tyson though, but we don’t know until it actually happens ,
And what fight plan does fury use , use reach advantage to keep him on the outside , or attempt to ,
Or go forward attempting to rag doll him with size advantage,
Usyk is crafty , good footwork should see him get into positions to land shots unlike the plodder Whyte , we may see fury get hit more than usual , how does he react to that ?
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@kiwiinmelb said in Boxing Thread:
It’s an intriguing fight if it happens ,
I’ve got no idea what would happen to be honest ,
What usyk did to AJ may not work the same on Tyson though, but we don’t know until it actually happens ,
And what fight plan does fury use , use reach advantage to keep him on the outside , or attempt to ,
Or go forward attempting to rag doll him with size advantage,
Usyk is crafty , good footwork should see him get into positions to land shots unlike the plodder Whyte , we may see fury get hit more than usual , how does he react to that ?
Very well considering he got up after the biggest puncher in the division floored him.
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@MN5 said in Boxing Thread:
@kiwiinmelb said in Boxing Thread:
It’s an intriguing fight if it happens ,
I’ve got no idea what would happen to be honest ,
What usyk did to AJ may not work the same on Tyson though, but we don’t know until it actually happens ,
And what fight plan does fury use , use reach advantage to keep him on the outside , or attempt to ,
Or go forward attempting to rag doll him with size advantage,
Usyk is crafty , good footwork should see him get into positions to land shots unlike the plodder Whyte , we may see fury get hit more than usual , how does he react to that ?
Very well considering he got up after the biggest puncher in the division floored him.
Yeah I wasn’t so much thinking knockouts but more potentially finding himself behind on the scorecards, I don’t believe he has ever been in a situation where he might be behind
You look at all the other fighters in the division and you think Tyson outpoints this guy , then you look at usyk and it’s, I’m not so sure
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@KiwiMurph Yup the looping overhand right which he got knocked down by Pajkic earlier in his career as well. Having said that, he's improved massively since then and his far better defensively than he was 10 or so years ago.
Let's also not forget how badly he struggled against another southpaw Otto Wallin. Wallin is decent, but Usyk is leagues above him and will go down as an ATG. I still think Usyk does him imo.
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@African-Monkey said in Boxing Thread:
@KiwiMurph Yup the looping overhand right which he got knocked down by Pajkic earlier in his career as well. Having said that, he's improved massively since then and his far better defensively than he was 10 or so years ago.
Let's also not forget how badly he struggled against another southpaw Otto Wallin. Wallin is decent, but Usyk is leagues above him and will go down as an ATG. I still think Usyk does him imo.
im sitting on the fence on this one , with a slight lean towards Fury , just think he and sugar are such crafty bastards they might come up with a plan specifically for Usyk that breaks him down
But if Usyk pulled this off after being so dominant at cruiserweight , you could make a case he is the best p4p fighter in the world not just heavyweight , its interesting his name never comes up in those discussions
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@kiwiinmelb Its because he's not from the Americas or the UK. Non English speaking European fighters always have a harder time getting exposure.
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@MiketheSnow said in Boxing Thread:
@African-Monkey said in Boxing Thread:
@MiketheSnow Its easily the biggest fight in the division.
Have to disagree on the size argument. Usyk showed enough to me against AJ that he's quick enough to combat the size aspect along with his ring IQ which is some of the best you'll see.
If Fury is to be considered an ATG, he has to beat Usyk imo. The way he speaks down about Usyk suggests to me that he himself knows how good he is deep down.
Too long (reach) over too big.
Defintiely agree that if he walks away now he tarnishes his legacy.
He's had enough time to blow the lineal shit.
Definitely a fight I'd love to see. IMO Fury just too big, too long. I can see Fury pushing Usyk around and just leaning on him much like W. Klitchko used to do to smaller heavyweights. But Usyk is something else, would be an awesome fight.
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@TheMojoman said in Boxing Thread:
Pretty much how most predicted ie, Fury outboxed Whyte.
TBH I can't see any of the top heavyweights beating Fury. He's really awkward, extremely long and unless you can push him around he'll pick you off. He's really hard to hit as well with his length and great body movement for a guys so big.
I've given this some thought around talks of Fury being a GOAT. He's obviously improved over his career, dispatching a number of contenders with differing styles, which in of itself is impressive for a bloke who looks like a new born giraffe. But he'd need to unite the belts and retire undefeated to be considered beyond the best of his generation.
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@kidcalder said in Boxing Thread:
Katie Taylor v Serrano was epic today
If you are a boxing fan try get a replayWas fantastic ,
lots of good fights this year ,
Canelo v Bivol next week
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@antipodean said in Boxing Thread:
@TheMojoman said in Boxing Thread:
Pretty much how most predicted ie, Fury outboxed Whyte.
TBH I can't see any of the top heavyweights beating Fury. He's really awkward, extremely long and unless you can push him around he'll pick you off. He's really hard to hit as well with his length and great body movement for a guys so big.
I've given this some thought around talks of Fury being a GOAT. He's obviously improved over his career, dispatching a number of contenders with differing styles, which in of itself is impressive for a bloke who looks like a new born giraffe. But he'd need to unite the belts and retire undefeated to be considered beyond the best of his generation.
A few years back it was easy to look at even “lesser” heavyweights of the 70s as one example ( Earnie Shavers, George Chuvalo, Ken Norton, Ron Lyle etc ) and say they could beat him. It’s not as clear cut now.
His size, skills and toughness would give anyone from any era at the very least a run for their money.
