Bledisloe I
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@kiwiinmelb said in Bledisloe I:
@canefan said in Bledisloe I:
@kiwiinmelb said in Bledisloe I:
Watching a replay , at the time I was frustrated during that first half ,
But watching again , our defence was sound , the handling errors were a result of us trying to up the tempo against an aggressive defence,
With the benefit of hindsight it paid off in the end
It must have been disheartening for the Orcs. They played an excellent first half and still we ran over them at the end of the 80 minutes. The contest was basically over by the 65th minute
If that was tough , the thought of going to eden park without Folau will have them struggling for positives
This may be a blessing for the Wallabies. Folau has a couple of very good strengths, taking the high ball in particular, but he is very average IMO at some of the more fundamental skills of rugby. Struggles to draw and pass, runs sideways, inconsistent kicking game for a fullback.
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@act-crusader said in Bledisloe I:
@kiwiinmelb said in Bledisloe I:
@canefan said in Bledisloe I:
@kiwiinmelb said in Bledisloe I:
Watching a replay , at the time I was frustrated during that first half ,
But watching again , our defence was sound , the handling errors were a result of us trying to up the tempo against an aggressive defence,
With the benefit of hindsight it paid off in the end
It must have been disheartening for the Orcs. They played an excellent first half and still we ran over them at the end of the 80 minutes. The contest was basically over by the 65th minute
If that was tough , the thought of going to eden park without Folau will have them struggling for positives
This may be a blessing for the Wallabies. Folau has a couple of very good strengths, taking the high ball in particular, but he is very average IMO at some of the more fundamental skills of rugby. Struggles to draw and pass, runs sideways, inconsistent kicking game for a fullback.
And not at all suited to the post match knees-up on K Road.
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@hydro11 said in Bledisloe I:
I think the Aussies have to stick with Pocock/Hooper. It gives them something different. Ireland struggled to deal with it big time. They have two locks in their team, no reason they should be losing so much set piece ball. They didn't really play badly last night. Just conceded too many penalties. We win games without ball and field position so when you give it to us, you lose by 25.
Its a problem when your blindside cant jump let alone win lineout ball either. Only two options isn't good enough at international level.
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@nzzp said in Bledisloe I:
@booboo said in Bledisloe I:
@majorrage said in Bledisloe I:
@mick-gold-coast-qld said in Bledisloe I:
@hydro11 said in Bledisloe I:
"I think the Aussies have to stick with Pocock/Hooper. It gives them something different."
... the opportunity to perfect their synchronised chirping at the referee every second time he picks on them - first Hoopla! who has his whinge and almost invariably just gives the ref a vacant stare after hearing his rebuff; followed by Bono, who may well believe he ought to be Captain, whining about the opposition.
Last night I overheard him say "I disagree with that!" to Peyper and something else, Jaco (appearing astonished and puzzled) said "But he's retired" (my lip reading), and Bono retorted "That doesn't mean McCaw didn't cheat right in front of you and you let him get away with it! What makes him so special?"
It happened quickly, near the edge of the screen - you may have missed it.
Surely that’s not true.
100%
FARK, if so, McCaw is visiting psychological wounds from beyond the playing grave. The legend continues
I'm sure I saw McCaw running around wearing his cloak of invisibility last night
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@wreck-diver said in Bledisloe I:
@hydro11 said in Bledisloe I:
I think the Aussies have to stick with Pocock/Hooper. It gives them something different. Ireland struggled to deal with it big time. They have two locks in their team, no reason they should be losing so much set piece ball. They didn't really play badly last night. Just conceded too many penalties. We win games without ball and field position so when you give it to us, you lose by 25.
Its a problem when your blindside cant jump let alone win lineout ball either. Only two options isn't good enough at international level.
I was even picking Tui as a lineout option. Which would give them 3 targets. If Tui is not an option NZ can send up 4 jumpers v their 2. The number of jackals you win isn't worth that amount of lineout lost.
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@wreck-diver said in Bledisloe I:
@hydro11 said in Bledisloe I:
I think the Aussies have to stick with Pocock/Hooper. It gives them something different. Ireland struggled to deal with it big time. They have two locks in their team, no reason they should be losing so much set piece ball. They didn't really play badly last night. Just conceded too many penalties. We win games without ball and field position so when you give it to us, you lose by 25.
Its a problem when your blindside cant jump let alone win lineout ball either. Only two options isn't good enough at international level.
You can take the options out by just throwing to the front every time. Sure it is telegraphed but you should still win 80% of your ball that way.
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Am I wrong but it seems to me that Goodhue was the man who replaced Ryan Crotty as second five eight while ALB was playing centre ? From his Saturday's performance, I am inclined to think that Goodhue could be the best choice at 12. I would love to see a midfield combo of : 12 - Goodhue and 13 - Rieko Ioane.
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we will flog them at home ,
Then they will win the dead rubber in tokyo ,
We will go into next season with talk they beat us the last time they played us and they have turned the corner ,
And the cycle begins again .
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@rocky-rockbottom I think with only 4 Aussies hanging around for Whitelock just sums up the relationship between the two sides. They don't have beer in the sheds together but the ABs and the Boks do
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Totally agree with you ACT, I was thinking exactly the same. When you compare his game to Ben Smith its not even close in terms of who can make the right decisions and link up with team-mates. he takes some bringing down but if you are up to the task he becomes quite ineffective. I think his best position would be wing.
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@act-crusader Blessing. Folau or no Folau, not sure getting your ass handed to you time after time is a blessing but I get your point :-).
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Had to listen to the pregame Aussie feed about being underdogs. Seems like this is a change in the ordinarily confidence the Aussies exude. Must be seriously doubting themselves these days and in need of a hug.
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@broughie said in Bledisloe I:
Had to listen to the pregame Aussie feed about being underdogs. Seems like this is a change in the ordinarily confidence the Aussies exude. Must be seriously doubting themselves these days and in need of a hug.
But Jeff Horn, Steve Bradbury, Kieran Perkins and Australia II said they would do it!
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@bones said in Bledisloe I:
@majorrage shit sorry I'd better put the whisky down.
Pretty sure Mick was mocking as usual. That seems rather far fetched.
Good on you Bones - I'm amused that my interpretive analysis did a couple of laps of the oval before you alone picked it up
Bono did say to Jaco "I disagree with that" which deserved the André Watson to George Gregan treatment of long ago "I've heard enough from you, George, go away".
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@dmx said in Bledisloe I:
Totally agree with you ACT, I was thinking exactly the same. When you compare his game to Ben Smith its not even close in terms of who can make the right decisions and link up with team-mates. he takes some bringing down but if you are up to the task he becomes quite ineffective. I think his best position would be wing.
Quite so DMX - I like how Israel Folau plays his game with obvious enjoyment and glee but it is just that, limited. He is a real talent at what he does well but he has been worked out by good outfits and if he is denied those first five yards of explosive speed when he lands that's the end of that. He does go through periods of indifference - by comparison I first saw Ben Smith appear mid way through the first half, jinking and swerving in a crowd, and my reaction was high expectation. His clever mind is always on the job.
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@broughie for the good of the game an Bledisloe and all that stuff 😎
If I were a Wallabies supporter I’d be praying that a player better suited to playing fullback stakes his claim and when Folau is fit again, Folau is moved to where he would be far more effective - the wing. There are a couple of good prospects that ran around in Super rugby.
