Hurricanes 2019 Discussion
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@Crucial @Bones I'm not comparing levels of rugby, i'm comparing the fact that Jordie Barrett's natural position growing up through age grade & provincial, before being played out of position in Super - was at 12. For all you know J Barrett may have played more minutes overall at 12 compared to Laumape regardless of level played, especially considering Laumape went to league for those early pro years. But if you are comparing Super and International then yes Laumape would be the more conservative option considering he has more minutes in that position at that level.
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I mean the time’s Barrett played in the midfield he looked fucken clueless
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@Yeahtheboys that was 13 not 12. Completely different dynamic, but hey if J Barrett ends up being a complete flop at 12 aswell then fuck knows where his best position lies. Maybe after that performance on the right wing, he may end up there. Atleast then he can hide - would be hard though with his giraffe like stature.
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@Canes4life said in Hurricanes 2019 Discussion:
@Crucial @Bones I'm not comparing levels of rugby, i'm comparing the fact that Jordie Barrett's natural position growing up through age grade & provincial, before being played out of position in Super - was at 12. For all you know J Barrett may have played more minutes overall at 12 compared to Laumape regardless of level played, especially considering Laumape went to league for those early pro years. But if you are comparing Super and International then yes Laumape would be the more conservative option considering he has more minutes in that position at that level.
Still ignoring the fact that as players go up the rugby tree their ideal position may change.
The ABs really missed a trick not player Mealamu at 7 didn't they?
Many a top level player plays a different position if they go back to their club for example. I've seen loosies play in the backs, props play backrow, wingers play 10 etc etc.
Having a great skillset will give you choice of position at lower levels but the position requirements dictate where you play at higher levels.
Another little question for you. How is JBs international record at 12? Was part of the worst U20s lineup in years IIRC. -
@Crucial said in Hurricanes 2019 Discussion:
@Canes4life said in Hurricanes 2019 Discussion:
…... I think J Barrett, with his …...cool, calm and collected demenour …
You mean this cool, calm collected demeanour?
That was Reiko's fault ...
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Yeah boi!! That is good news
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Looking at the likely 1st 23 to kick off 2019 against the Tahs in Manly Sea Eagle territory and expecting all All Blacks are on board, we will probably see:
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T Smith
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Coles (c)
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Toomaga Allen
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Lousi
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Walker-Leawere
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Fifita
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Savea
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Evans
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Perenara
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B Barrett
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Lam
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Laumape
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Proctor
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Aso
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J Barrett
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Aumua
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Armstrong
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Fidow
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Cridge
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Prinsep
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Judd
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F Smith
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Rayasi
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@Canes4life Fakatava for reserve half over Judd? Edit: Forgot he's from HB so is with the Highlanders.
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@cgrant It's obviously hard to drop Lam because he was top Super Rugby try scorer in 2018, on the other hand he had some shocking defensive plays last year that could allow Rayasi to really put pressure on for the no 11 jersey if he can show more steal. From what I've seen Rayasi seems more keen to get into the game, whereas Lam is a great finisher but shys away from the nitty gritty stuff.
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@Canes4life said in Hurricanes 2019 Discussion:
It's obviously hard to drop Lam because he was top Super Rugby try scorer in 2018, on the other hand he had some shocking defensive plays last year that could allow Rayasi to really put pressure on for the no 11 jersey if he can show more steal. From what I've seen Rayasi seems more keen to get into the game, whereas Lam is a great finisher but shys away from the nitty gritty stuff.
Lam used to have terrible decision making. He has improved, but he still seems to react slowly in some situations. A really frustrating player to watch
Rayasi is still raw but I expect him to be starting ahead of Lam after the first month.
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Hurricanes squad to play the Crusaders in their first preseason game on Saturday in Levin:
15 Chase Tiatia
14 Wes Goosen
13 Matt Proctor
12 Vince Aso
11 Ben Lam
10 Fletcher Smith
9 Finlay Christie
8 Gareth Evans
7 Sam Henwood
6 Reed Prinsep
5 Geoff Cridge
4 James Blackwell
3 Jeff To'omaga-Allen
2 Ricky Riccitelli
1 Toby SmithReserves
16 Asafo Aumua
17 James O'Reilly
18 Kianu Kereru-Symes
19 Ben May
20 Chris Eves
21 Alex Fidow
22 Fraser Armstrong
23 Xavier Numia
24 Isaia Walker-Leawere
25 Liam Mitchell
26 Naitoa Ah Kuoi
27 Heiden Bedwell-Curtis
28 Du'Plessis Kirifi
29 Devan Flanders
30 Teariki Ben-Nicholas
31 Jono Hickey
32 Carlos Price
33 Jackson Garden-Bachop
34 Danny Toala
35 Billy Proctor
36 Jonah Lowe
37 Salesi Rayasi
38 Callum HarkinThe match, which will feature rolling substitutions, will be played over two 40 minute halves. The reserves bench features a mix of Hurricanes squad members and players who have been training with the group after impressing in the Mitre 10 Cup and national under-19 tournament. While the Hurricanes All Blacks will not play in the pre season match they will be travelling with the squad and will be available at the domain from 2pm to mix with their fans and sign autographs.The pre season match will also see new Hurricanes assistant coach Carlos Spencer return to his hometown where he was expecting plenty of support. "I've been down to the domain to have a look and I can't believe how good the ground is looking, it's the best I've ever seen it," he said. -
