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@MiketheSnow Hill should stop moving his temple down to his chin, leaves it way more exposed.
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@Bovidae said in NH International Rugby:
I think you could make an argument for other props in this team. Tom Smith was good, but his reputation is based mainly on the 1997 Lions tour, and obviously he is Scottish.
Tbh. Until you pointed that out. I actually thought it was might mouse Scottish prop from 70s that geech picked, not mighty mousish from the 90s.
Yes. That's a bit underwhelming. Good player. But never at the time did I think I was watching the best player in history in his position. Was he the beat LHP of his decade? Debatable.
Geech coached him for 2 teams. Though.
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@Bones said in NH International Rugby:
Only one I'd question is Tomos Williams starting at 9. Could be either Davies or Webb depending on who's going well in training.
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@MiketheSnow I've only just tried to read the article and gave up after the shitty page pop-ups and ads still hadn't finished loading by the time I'd managed to eventually get down to blindside with far too much effort than should have been required.
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@Bones said in NH International Rugby:
@MiketheSnow I've only just tried to read the article and gave up after the shitty page pop-ups and ads still hadn't finished loading by the time I'd managed to eventually get down to blindside with far too much effort than should have been required.
Didn't miss much
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@Bovidae said in NH International Rugby:
@Rapido Ian McLauchlan was his name. Before my rugby watching.
I would probably pick Os du Randt at LH prop.
McGeechan didn't select as many old timers as I thought.
Os was the LH in that 97 series.
Tom Smith got the better of Adrian Garvey
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@MiketheSnow said in NH International Rugby:
@Bovidae said in NH International Rugby:
@Rapido Ian McLauchlan was his name. Before my rugby watching.
I would probably pick Os du Randt at LH prop.
McGeechan didn't select as many old timers as I thought.
Os was the LH in that 97 series.
Tom Smith got the better of Adrian Garvey
I know. As you say, the problem was on the other side of the scrum.
Just saying Os would be picked ahead of Smith in my top XV.
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Barnes and the Walrus have named their top 10 no.8s. The Walrus writing for his audience again.
STEPHEN JONES: 1-Wayne (Buck) Shelford (NZ), 2-Sergio Parisse (Italy), 3-Taulupe Faletau (Wales), 4-Lawrence Dallaglio (England), 5-Mervyn Davies (Wales), 6-Duane Vermeulen (South Africa), 7-Kieran Read (NZ), 8-Tim Rodber (England), 9-Billy Vunipola (England) 10 equal: Imanol Harinordoquy (France), Dan Lyle (USA). STUART BARNES: 1-Read, 2-Zinzan Brooke (NZ), 3-Harinordoquy, 4-Dallaglio, 5-Davies, 6-Parisse, 7-Faletau, 8-Toutai Kefu (Australia), 9-Vermeulen, 10-Dean Richards (England).
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@Rebound said in NH International Rugby:
@Bones Really Vermeulen. He won't even make the Books top 5 no 8
Do go on...
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Gary Teichmann
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@MiketheSnow said in NH International Rugby:
Gary Teichmann
Dawson’s bunny. He practically wrote him a cheque as he was buying that dummy.
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Morné du Plessis
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@Catogrande said in NH International Rugby:
@MiketheSnow said in NH International Rugby:
Gary Teichmann
Dawson’s bunny. He practically wrote him a cheque as he was buying that dummy.
Great play, but hardly consigns Teichmann to the scrap heap.
It was a No.8 backtracking against a No. 9 after all
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"However the two parties have now agreed a new deal, which will protect the lowest earners in the Irish game." Minimum potatoes guaranteed.
To be honest, same with every case of reduced wages in rugby I've seen reports on, a big push by the big names to make sure the Jo average pro doesn't get shafted. Which is good to see
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@MiketheSnow No, undoubtedly a good player but what do most people remember him for? Unfair but...
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@MiketheSnow said in NH International Rugby:
@Catogrande said in NH International Rugby:
@MiketheSnow said in NH International Rugby:
Gary Teichmann
Dawson’s bunny. He practically wrote him a cheque as he was buying that dummy.
Great play, but hardly consigns Teichmann to the scrap heap.
It was a No.8 backtracking against a No. 9 after all
What were the Saffa Blindside and the Fullback doing?
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@Catogrande said in NH International Rugby:
@MiketheSnow No, undoubtedly a good player but what do most people remember him for? Unfair but...
Captaining SA to unbeaten Tri Nations season and 17 wins on the bounce in my house.
He captained the Springboks in 39 tests between 1996 and 1999 with 27 of those (72%) ending in victory.
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@MiketheSnow was he the captain when SA lost their first series at home?
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@Bones said in NH International Rugby:
@MiketheSnow was he the captain when SA lost their first series at home?
To whom?
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@MiketheSnow oops...NZ.
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@MiketheSnow said in NH International Rugby:
@Catogrande said in NH International Rugby:
@MiketheSnow No, undoubtedly a good player but what do most people remember him for? Unfair but...
Captaining SA to unbeaten Tri Nations season and 17 wins on the bounce in my house.
He captained the Springboks in 39 tests between 1996 and 1999 with 27 of those (72%) ending in victory.
Good achievements but in the wider discussion, having the 7th best test win percentage of Number 8 international captains (minimum tests 10, 5th if the minimum is 15) isn’t exactly a fantastic stat to put him in a world best team.
From NZ only he trails Shelford (10 matches, 96%), Read (52, 85%) and Lochore (18, 83) for wins as Captain at No. 8.
He doesn’t even lead for SA no 8s, behind Du Plessis (15, 86%).
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@gt12 said in NH International Rugby:
@MiketheSnow said in NH International Rugby:
@Catogrande said in NH International Rugby:
@MiketheSnow No, undoubtedly a good player but what do most people remember him for? Unfair but...
Captaining SA to unbeaten Tri Nations season and 17 wins on the bounce in my house.
He captained the Springboks in 39 tests between 1996 and 1999 with 27 of those (72%) ending in victory.
Good achievements but in the wider discussion, having the 7th best test win percentage of Number 8 international captains (minimum tests 10, 5th if the minimum is 15) isn’t exactly a fantastic stat to put him in a world best team.
From NZ only he trails Shelford (10 matches, 96%), Read (52, 85%) and Lochore (18, 83) for wins as Captain at No. 8.
He doesn’t even lead for SA no 8s, behind Du Plessis (15, 86%).
That was the point.
Both Du Plessis and Teichmann better options than Duane.
Overall, not in with a shout.
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You’ll have to forgive me, because from your two word post of Gary Teichmann, and subsequent defense, it wasn’t clear to me that you were refuting the selection of Thor.
I think I see it now that I actually read the thread. What a fucking hassle.
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@gt12 said in NH International Rugby:
You’ll have to forgive me, because from your two word post of Gary Teichmann, and subsequent defense, it wasn’t clear to me that you were refuting the selection of Thor.
I think I see it now that I actually read the thread. What a fucking hassle.
Pissing myself
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UK government has announced that it expects stadiums to be open for fans from the start of October.
November internationals in the UK will go ahead.
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@sparky said in NH International Rugby:
UK government has announced that it expects stadiums to be open for fans from the start of October.
November internationals in the UK will go ahead.
Yup there 6 Nations plus Japan (and summertime riser, can't remember?) Nothing to do with SH, as they haven't come here
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@Machpants The Tests are still scheduled to happen according to World Rugby. It is amazing that the NZ Government have refused to reinburse NZR for the cancellation of the June internationals which their quasi-dacronian quarantine policy made impossible. The stubborn inflexibility of the NH club sides in refusing to allow the tests to shift to August/September didn't help.
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@gt12 said in NH International Rugby:
I think I see it now that I actually read the thread. What a fucking hassle.
Well that is a lesson learnt, you won't do that again. Nobody else does.
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I'll pop this in here, feels wierd agreeing with Eddie. Yes rugby needs more speed and less bulk, and yes you have to really want to play for an international side
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@Machpants speed up the game! Maybe make the squad larger...gave different players for defence and attack that you can roll on and off? Limitless substitutions...
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@Machpants said in NH International Rugby:
I'll pop this in here, feels wierd agreeing with Eddie. Yes rugby needs more speed and less bulk, and yes you have to really want to play for an international side
Non-story.
Pick players who can pass and put a man in space.
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