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  • taniwharugbyT Offline
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    wrote on last edited by
    #1132

    haha, the dissection continues, UK press seem to be digging for a controversial statement (its been raining most of the day so stuck inside)

    http://www.newstalkzb.co.nz/on-air/veitch-on-sport/audio/hansen-sbw-knows-he-made-a-mistake/

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  • boobooB Do not disturb
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    @booboo said in All Blacks v BI Lions Test #2:

    @Nepia said in All Blacks v BI Lions Test #2:

    @kev said in All Blacks v BI Lions Test #2:

    @Nepia almost agree but accidental doesn't matter nowadays. Contact to head with swinging arm resulting in concussion and player leaving the field. O'Brien is a wonderful player and clean as but shit happens and the rules are about cleaning up technique as much as dirty play

    I actually can't see the swinging arm. Of four of us watching together last night, 2 could see the arm and 2 couldn't - we need a Green and Gold style breakdown ....

    Look for the end on replay

    @Nepia

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    @Nepia

    Itoje's workrate helped the Lions - he was their top tackler (and missed a couple) and caused a few problems for the AB's at rucks and mauls.

    Where he was most noticeable was standing about a yard offside at each ruck - not sure he'll get away with that every game.

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    replied to booboo on last edited by taniwharugby
    #1135

    @booboo pretty innocuous really, but be interesting to see how they treat it given an incident with potential for injury can see a RC, while one that didnt look much, but resulted in a player leaving the field.

    As already stated, dont think this needed sanction (although didnt get anything on-field, so if meets RC threshold...) but felt MV should.

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    #1136

    @PecoTrain standing a yard off side all the time means you dont have to work so hard to get to the player with the ball 😉

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    #1137

    Contact with the head though, and we know how WR feels about that.

    I was surprised that nothing was said about the O'Brien tackle during the game as it was obvious what had happened.

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    #1138

    @Chris-B. Well I maybe a tad optimistic about how good your backs are, I would have backed them to defend short handed 😅

    For the life of me I can't understand this 'protecting the player' bullshit being dished out by the referees and comms at every turn. Seems its more like a fingertip to the head is red, but charge on a player on the ground(who is also retreating from the tackle) the head not being the point of contact and its play on?

    I mean out of the two incidents, SoB on Naholo and Vunipola on Barret, the other had intent, no arms, and a real chance for the receiving end to get injured, whereas Naholo was unlucky to get a forearm to the head.

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    #1139

    O'Bruen cited so the process worked.

    Mea culpa for thinking it wasn't so bad as it clearly was.

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    #1140

    O'Brien's a good christian man isn't he? Attended the same church as Mealamu today.

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    #1141

    With regards to the winning penalty, a french ref did the same last week in the Fiji v Wales game and I was fuming.
    I prefer it the jumper is penalised.. Like Elsom was..

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    #1142

    @SimonAdd_2 said in All Blacks v BI Lions Test #2:

    @taniwharugby you mean the second penalty against the tackler? I can't remember the first.

    I've always hated it. Up there with diving over the top of a ruck to score a try for me. Leaves the defenders no legal recourse and just feels like a loophole in the laws that defies the spirit of the game.

    my bad, it was the Fiji-Wales game last week where a Fijian was pinged when a Welshman jumped to take a pass (mentioned in post above)

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    #1143

    @Toddy he wont get banned he's a Lion they never do anything that warrants a penalty especially the Irish ones

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    Having to penalise the tackler is a seriously moronic rule. So everyone jumps when you get to the gainline like Sinckler and you are through the first line of defense. Mind you the fatty can jump, which is probably the most surprising thing.....

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    #1145

    SBW suspended for 4 weeks.

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    #1146

    @pakman Whitelock was fairly anonymous. I think Retallick and Itoje would be a much fairer representation of the two best locks

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    #1147

    @junior Is this the original "junior"? If so, welcome back.

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    replied to Tim on last edited by
    #1148

    @Tim yeah mate. Been a while but felt to dip my toe as the tour heated up.

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    #1149

    This is jumping into the tackle.

    Don't think yesterday was remotely similar really.

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    replied to Billy Tell on last edited by Toddy
    #1150

    @Billy-Tell said in All Blacks v BI Lions Test #2:

    This is jumping into the tackle.

    Don't think yesterday was remotely similar really.

    This is jumping over the tackle.

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    @Samurai-Jack said in All Blacks v BI Lions Test #2:

    Having to penalise the tackler is a seriously moronic rule. So everyone jumps when you get to the gainline like Sinckler and you are through the first line of defense. Mind you the fatty can jump, which is probably the most surprising thing.....

    We were always taught it is illegal to jump into a tackle. I don't think that was the case with Sinckler, more that he was reaching for a poor pass. Not sure what Faumiuna could have done in that instance. If the idea is for him to wait until Sinckler is back to earth then that sends a message that jumping into tackles is a good percentage move.

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